Detournement Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 47 minutes ago, GAD said: Yeah, I think Glasgow are in a bit of trouble here, struggling to get in the game. They are defending well enough, but it's going to break at some point. They win ugly eventually. The Lions all looked like seasoned pros so a good win for a Glasgow team with a lot of inexperienced players. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) Chile have knocked Canada out if the RWC qualifiers 54-46 on aggregate Edited October 9, 2021 by ajwffc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Uruguay are 13-8 at HT (29-27 on aggregate). Winner qualifies as Americas 1 loser plays Chile to become Americas 2(loser of that enters the Final Qualification Tournament as Americas 3) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 A 34-15 win for Uruguay over USA qualifies them for the RWC as Americas 1. USA will now play Chile for the 2nd qualification spot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 22 hours ago, ajwffc said: Chile have knocked Canada out if the RWC qualifiers 54-46 on aggregate I watched a wee bit of this on freesports this morning. Chile's stand off is an absolutely electric runner. Canada were pretty bad though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 Glasgow have signed a giant Tongan winger. With McKay and Cancilliere still to arrive the plan must be to develop him. I also saw Danny Wilson calling for McLean and Darge to be in the Scotland squad. I expect they will be but there are plenty ahead of them in the queue for caps and i'd like to see them against Leinster, Exeter and La Rochelle before they play for Scotland. Caps should be hard to earn now we are improving and we have DVDM, Graham, Maitland and Steyn on the wing and Watson and Ritchie for 7 with Bayliss in the wings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Detournement said: Glasgow have signed a giant Tongan winger. With McKay and Cancilliere still to arrive the plan must be to develop him. I also saw Danny Wilson calling for McLean and Darge to be in the Scotland squad. I expect they will be but there are plenty ahead of them in the queue for caps and i'd like to see them against Leinster, Exeter and La Rochelle before they play for Scotland. Caps should be hard to earn now we are improving and we have DVDM, Graham, Maitland and Steyn on the wing and Watson and Ritchie for 7 with Bayliss in the wings. DVDM and Maitland won't be available for the Tonga game though, will they? Also as good as he is, Maitland is 33 now, so there is a bit to be said for trying out some of the younger guys, and McLean has been playing well for me. Agree about the back row though. Ryan Wilson seems to get better everytime I watch him just now as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I had forgot the Tonga game is a Glasgow/Edinburgh select. I'm still not sure I'd pick McLean. I agree on Ryan Wilson. If he had been picked ahead of Gary Graham the 6 Nations could have been very different. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Detournement said: I had forgot the Tonga game is a Glasgow/Edinburgh select. I'm still not sure I'd pick McLean. I agree on Ryan Wilson. If he had been picked ahead of Gary Graham the 6 Nations could have been very different. Is Cole Forbes "Scottish"? I can see 3 from Forbes, McLean, Kinghorn, Steyn with the odd one out on the bench for that game no problem. Fancy Thompson to make his debut as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, GAD said: Is Cole Forbes "Scottish"? I can see 3 from Forbes, McLean, Kinghorn, Steyn with the odd one out on the bench for that game no problem. Fancy Thompson to make his debut as well. he is Scottish through his grandparents 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, GAD said: Is Cole Forbes "Scottish"? I can see 3 from Forbes, McLean, Kinghorn, Steyn with the odd one out on the bench for that game no problem. Fancy Thompson to make his debut as well. Aye Forbes is qualified. He looks a quality find. Wee Darcy is on great form so I expect he will start against Tonga. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Detournement said: Aye Forbes is qualified. He looks a quality find. Wee Darcy is on great form so I expect he will start against Tonga. Yeah, Graham is playing really well. I've got a feeling he might be held back for the two big games, but could be wrong. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 After Graham, McLean is the inform winger with the Scottish clubs, I cant remember the last time we had a winger with his sort of pace. He has a great chance of starting vs Tonga if we are without our English based players opposite Graham. I would have Forbes at full back for that game. Forbes gets better with every game also, and I would have him on the test bench to cover the back 3 for the bigger games. Darge was man of the match vs Ulster and his performances have been excellent in every game so far this season. Obviously Ritchie and Watson are the men in possession of the jersey's but I hope he is in the squad to get some experience as he has a bright future. Im assuming Thompson will start the Tonga game at 10, and im also hoping we cap Dobie this autumn as well. He has stiff competion from Price, Horne and Velacott, but I think he has the best all round game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 On the backrow, Darge may get pushed further down the pecking order, https://www.iol.co.za/sport/rugby/springboks/sharks-star-dylan-richardson-to-play-for-scotland-in-november-internationals-4f5145d0-3fc1-4e5d-ba75-833ffdad3b27 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 11 hours ago, honestly united said: and im also hoping we cap Dobie this autumn as well. He has stiff competion from Price, Horne and Velacott, but I think he has the best all round game. He struggled against the Lions on Saturday. He's nowhere near ready. It's Price then Steele and Vellacot will probably get an opportunity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 45 minutes ago, Detournement said: He struggled against the Lions on Saturday. He's nowhere near ready. It's Price then Steele and Vellacot will probably get an opportunity. We'll need to agree to disagree, i thought he was one of Glasgows better players on Saturday. Yes he made a couple of error's but he is still young, and learning at this level. However both him and Thompson have that certain something that all the best players have where they almost look like they are playing at a different speed to everyone else as they always look like they have loads of time on the ball. I think Dobie is a more of an .all round SH than any of the others 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 17 minutes ago, honestly united said: We'll need to agree to disagree, i thought he was one of Glasgows better players on Saturday. Yes he made a couple of error's but he is still young, and learning at this level. However both him and Thompson have that certain something that all the best players have where they almost look like they are playing at a different speed to everyone else as they always look like they have loads of time on the ball. I think Dobie is a more of an .all round SH than any of the others He is technically excellent but I thought he was poor near the opposition line and didn't offer much control when the Lions started to put on a bit of pressure. He only played 48 minutes so Wilson must have thought the same That will come for him but he's a long way from Test level. Autumn and 6 Nations now is all about winning. We have strong competition in most positions and don't need to hand out caps just on promise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 13 minutes ago, Detournement said: He is technically excellent but I thought he was poor near the opposition line and didn't offer much control when the Lions started to put on a bit of pressure. He only played 48 minutes so Wilson must have thought the same That will come for him but he's a long way from Test level. Autumn and 6 Nations now is all about winning. We have strong competition in most positions and don't need to hand out caps just on promise. I thought he struggled a bit against Ulster as well, even discounting the changed down kick which cost a try. I think he'll be a good player, but there isn't a need to rush him in with Price and Steele being solid enough and Horne and Velacott able to speed things up. I'm not sure I agree Autumn is all about winning. It's more important than Summer obviously, but it's still a good chance to build a bit if squad depth. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, GAD said: I thought he struggled a bit against Ulster as well, even discounting the changed down kick which cost a try. I think he'll be a good player, but there isn't a need to rush him in with Price and Steele being solid enough and Horne and Velacott able to speed things up. I'm not sure I agree Autumn is all about winning. It's more important than Summer obviously, but it's still a good chance to build a bit if squad depth. Aye but building squad depth at 9 is more caps for Steele and Horne who are still inexperienced at Test level and a debut for Vellacot. Darcy has 18 caps and Duhan has 10. Ideally they go into RWC23 with another 25+ caps each. If McLean is a Test level player already he will show it for Glasgow in the big games this season. Just now he is a prospect. Edited October 13, 2021 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Detournement said: Aye but building squad depth at 9 is more caps for Steele and Horne who are still inexperienced at Test level and a debut for Vellacot. Darcy has 18 caps and Duhan has 10. Ideally they go into RWC23 with another 25+ caps each. If McLean is a Test level player already he will show it for Glasgow in the big games this season. Just now he is a prospect. Steele is 28, Horne and Velacott 26, they are not youngsters who are going to improve hugely from the experience. The best players we have (Russell, Hogg, Gray etc) all made their debuts about 20-22 and were establish first choices by about 23. By 26-28 if your not starting for Scotland your only going to be a bit part player (project players excluded). Im not saying they are bad players, there good club players and good players to have as part of the squad, they are not though and are not going to be world class players and as we have a small group of players we need to identifying and managing properly any players that have that potential edit to add....While I was waflling on someone else seems to agree Scotland squad Forwards: Matt Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors – 13 caps Nick Haining – Edinburgh Rugby – 8 caps Hamish Watson – Edinburgh Rugby – 41 caps Rory Darge – Glasgow Warriors – uncapped Dylan Richardson – Cell C Sharks – uncapped Jamie Ritchie – Edinburgh Rugby – 27 caps Luke Crosbie – Edinburgh Rugby – uncapped Grant Gilchrist – Edinburgh Rugby – 45 caps Jamie Hodgson – Edinburgh Rugby – uncapped Rob Harley – Glasgow Warriors – 22 caps Marshall Sykes – Edinburgh Rugby – uncapped Zander Fagerson – Glasgow Warriors – 38 caps Oli Kebble – Glasgow Warriors – 8 caps Murray McCallum – Glasgow Warriors – 3 caps George Turner – Glasgow Warriors – 17 caps Fraser Brown – Glasgow Warriors – 54 caps Stuart McInally – Edinburgh Rugby – 40 caps Pierre Schoeman – Edinburgh Rugby – uncapped Jamie Bhatti – Glasgow Warriors – 18 caps Backs: Rufus McLean – Glasgow Warriors – uncapped Damien Hoyland – Edinburgh Rugby – 4 caps Darcy Graham – Edinburgh Rugby – 19 caps Cole Forbes – Glasgow Warriors – uncapped Sione Tuipulotu – Glasgow Warriors – uncapped Mark Bennett – Edinburgh Rugby – 22 caps Matt Currie – Edinburgh Rugby – uncapped Sam Johnson – Glasgow Warriors – 18 caps James Lang – Edinburgh Rugby – 6 caps Kyle Steyn – Glasgow Warriors – 1 cap Jack Blain – Edinburgh Rugby – uncapped Blair Kinghorn – Edinburgh Rugby – 25 caps Ross Thompson – Glasgow Warriors – uncapped Charlie Savala – Edinburgh Rugby – uncapped Ali Price – Glasgow Warriors – 42 caps George Horne – Glasgow Warriors – 14 caps Jamie Dobie – Glasgow Warriors – uncapped Edited October 13, 2021 by honestly united 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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