stanton Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 11 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: 13 hours ago, Detournement said: One step at a time. Next 6 nations we have Ireland,Wales and Italy at home, all very winnable, so we need to win in London or Paris to have a shout. It's possible Hopefully next years match at Twickenham won't be a crazy a match as our last visit there was 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Disagree We need to aim to win all 5 with bonus points and without conceding a point But I accept that might take a couple of years Now you're being silly [emoji23] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 A small thing, but something that really fucked me off yesterday was the commentators in all 3 games mentioned when there was a ruck close to the posts that the attack would be targeting the post protector. That law got amended in May, and the PP is no longer an extension of the goal line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Tremendous champagne rugby from Edinburgh tonight, racking up the points for a decisive win 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Another win for a team in blue over a team in red in Llanelli as Embra grind it out over the Scarlets in utterly horrendous conditions. Not long before the end, the Scarlets nearly scored off a big break after unbelievably obvious crossing in their own 22. Slightly disappointed they didn't, because Cockerill's post match interview would have been tremendous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Im hoping we can build on the results this year and go from expecting to beat Italy and hoping for results against the other teams to expecting to win all our home games and hoping for away wins and then once we get there push on expecting to win all the games. The issue we always have is that with 2 teams we create good young players like Hogg, Gray and Russell but they get to mid 20's and they go off to either England or France as we can afford to keep them, which then means we dont get to protect them as much and minimise game time. We've only had one season of Super 6 so wont comment on whether that is hte answer or just a waste of money. But 2 teams doesn't help in long term keep a good stream of players into the Scotland squad, its going well at the moment, but we have had many years where it hasn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Broken jaw, nose and cheek bone for George Taylor from essentially a flying headbutt. The comments are full of Welsh idiots saying only a yellow. Jiffy obviously amongst them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 A third pro team would add high costs but very little income so more good players would probably leave. Look at some of the shocking lineups Glasgow and Edinburgh have put out over the past couple of years. A third pro team would lower the standard in both sides even further. The only thing that will improve Scottish rugby is cutting out the foreign journeymen as the Irish have done but there aren't enough pro level players yet. Hopefully Super Six changes that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Detournement said: Broken jaw, nose and cheek bone for George Taylor from essentially a flying headbutt. The comments are full of Welsh idiots saying only a yellow. Jiffy obviously amongst them. He’s never in a position to make a legal tackle on someone shorter than him. Taylor dips slightly, but even if he hadn’t, the height at angle he’s hit at mean he would have been munching shoulder regardless. It’s a red, should be a big ban, and is the type of tackle they are trying to get rid of with the current framework. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 The worst thing is he has plenty of time to line up a legal tackle and the full body/legs to aim at. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 47 minutes ago, Detournement said: A third pro team would add high costs but very little income so more good players would probably leave. Look at some of the shocking lineups Glasgow and Edinburgh have put out over the past couple of years. A third pro team would lower the standard in both sides even further. The only thing that will improve Scottish rugby is cutting out the foreign journeymen as the Irish have done but there aren't enough pro level players yet. Hopefully Super Six changes that. Its a tough call, you look at both Wales and Ireland with 4 teams and you think thats what we should be aiming at, however Ireland have done it well with 3 strong teams in the 3 big cities and a 4th which was pretty much (suppose to be) a development team - they are getting decent crowds and seem to have the money to keep all the internationals in Ireland, and can bring in marque foreign signings along with a conveyor belt of really good young players. Wales on the other hand all the regions and WRU seem to be skint, they have lost loads of top players to England and France similar to ourselves, the crowds have dropped and they dont seem to have the young players coming through. I agree that we shouldnt be signing foreigners to fill the bench or squad, we should only be signing foreign players that are going to make a difference to the team, I would much rather have some youngster fill the bench. I think we do need a 3rd team as you look at Dobie at Glasgow for example, he could do with playing every week to develop, but he is 3rd choice at Glasgow behind Price and Horne so game time is limited (he is probably close to 3rd / 4th choice for Scotland also). With only 2 pro teams you are in a position where 2nd choice at club is also 2nd or 3rd choice for the national team, which isnt healthy. A 3rd team as a development team with a few old heads (ie the likes of Horne sr, Barclay when he came back up, guys that are good pro's but getting past it) is the way too go, add in a few from Glasgow and Edinburgh that need game time would it cost anymore to run that the 6 Super 6 teams? Obvisouly you would get income form crowds and TV, sponsers etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 45 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: He’s never in a position to make a legal tackle on someone shorter than him. Taylor dips slightly, but even if he hadn’t, the height at angle he’s hit at mean he would have been munching shoulder regardless. It’s a red, should be a big ban, and is the type of tackle they are trying to get rid of with the current framework. Obviously you cant tell whats going through someones head but it looks more like bad technique than malicious. Its a 2nd row stuck out on the wing knowing he has to stop the winger otherwise he's half way down the park - not condoning the tackle but its more he's all over the place rather than deliberately trying to injury him, but its dreadful though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Rugby teams are expensive to run. 35 players minimum and loads of support staff. Nowhere in Scotland would provide a sustainable crowd. TV money overall wouldn't increase so it would likely come out the current SRU share. Sponsorship would likely be the same pie with more slices. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Another champagne classic going on 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 We are going the way of the Welsh, decent international team and shite Pro teams 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusTheBull Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Depending on the severity of injuries to Russell/Hastings, it looks like Weir could be the only FH (currently) in the squad for the Italy and France games. Vd Walt qualifies for Scotland on the 16th so would be missing the Italy game (14th) anyway. However, he’s off back to South Africa to get married on Friday so won’t be out of quarantine until the day of the France game (22nd). If neither Russell/Hastings make it, what other options do we have? Lang? I’m sure there’s a Townsend bolter hidden away somewhere who I’ve forgotten. I don’t want to think of Hogg and Kinghorn as Duncy Weir’s replacement against France. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 From what I have seen mention it will be Weir to start with Hogg or Laing getting moved if needed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 12 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said: Another champagne classic going on I thought we matched them well for the first 15/ 20 minutes, but once they got the 2nd try they took control, then when they got the 3rd our heads went down - 2nd half was much improved and I think we deserved at least 1 if not 2 BP's. You have to play at 100% all game against whatever leinster team is on the park, taking the foot of the gas for 10 or 15 minutes and you've lost the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 14 hours ago, Detournement said: Rugby teams are expensive to run. 35 players minimum and loads of support staff. Nowhere in Scotland would provide a sustainable crowd. TV money overall wouldn't increase so it would likely come out the current SRU share. Sponsorship would likely be the same pie with more slices. There will be a new TV deal added to the pot when the big SA teams enter - this would be ideal opportunity to add a 3rd Scottish team - at the moment the Chetahs are out on their ear and being replaced by the 4 Super Rugby teams, for a 16 team league, it may be worth discussing 18 teams with the Chetahs and another Scottish team. The SRU are already paying for all the institute of sports guys playing for the Pro teams and Super 6's so they could be shifted to the new team at no extra cost. Also I would be looking at Georgia and saying I know you have players that need pro experience we will take 8-10 if you pay their wages. Youve then build the majority of the squad at no extra cost 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Even if you genuinely consider weakening Glasgow and Edinburgh so that a bunch of Scottish (and Georgian!) jobbers can get cricket scores put on them by Leinster and the Stormers as a good idea there is still the problem of paying for a training facility and finding a venue to play the games. Look at last night. Darcy Rae nowhere near it in the scrum, Harley a busted flush at lock, Peter Horne and Huw Jones kidding on they are a 10 and 15. Two wingers in their 30s. Brandon Thomson on the bench. Pierroto, Ioane, Lokotui and Tagive brought in from abroad simply to make up numbers. Chris Fusaro still playing 3 years after he would have been let go by Ulster or even Scarlets. The problem is the polar opposite of requiring a third pro team. The glaring problem is not having enough players for two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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