peasy23 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 You would presume at age 27 and with 40 odd caps, that Russell would be part of any senior players group. He's quite right to be pissed off if they have set up all the rules without any input from him.I can't for the life of me understand why Russell and Maitland were expected to train on the Monday after playing on Sunday afternoon and travelling up straight after. Surely it wasn't too much to let them have a few beers, the same as the rest of the squad did on the Saturday, then have Monday off?I do think the bulk of the squad feel more loyalty to their employers, whereas Finn has gone to France and realised there is more than one way to manage players after 7 or 8 years under Townsend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 what has happened to Johnny Gray, I thought he played the full 80 minutes on saturday? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 what has happened to Johnny Gray, I thought he played the full 80 minutes on saturday?Hand injury I believe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy Snake Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, peasy23 said: I can't for the life of me understand why Russell and Maitland were expected to train on the Monday after playing on Sunday afternoon and travelling up straight after. It's not about training. Finn didn't turn up for a team meeting, which he even admitted in his interview was a mistake. Edited February 10, 2020 by Jaggy Snake 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 It's not about training. Finn didn't turn up for a team meeting, which he even admitted in his interview was a mistake.Just one of many reports to reference him missing training on the Monday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, peasy23 said: Just one of many reports to reference him missing training on the Monday. But he had played the day before so he wouldn't necessarily have been scheduled to train on the Monday. Sean Maitland wasn't going to train on the Monday https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/51125848 Quote "We're training five sessions from Monday 20 January to Monday 27 and those Saracens players can only make one of those sessions," Townsend said. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual Insanity Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I don't think either of them come out particularly well from this dispute, but ultimately only one of them is employed to win Scotland rugby matches. Ultimately his intransigence is going to be partially responsible for him losing his job, but until then we all have to watch a decent rugby team desperately short of the exact creativity Russell brings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I don't think either of them come out particularly well from this dispute, but ultimately only one of them is employed to win Scotland rugby matches. Ultimately his intransigence is going to be partially responsible for him losing his job, but until then we all have to watch a decent rugby team desperately short of the exact creativity Russell brings. And the precise creativity that’ll break down certainly Italy and, possibly, Wales. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 16 hours ago, Jaggy Snake said: It's not about training. Finn didn't turn up for a team meeting, which he even admitted in his interview was a mistake. I don't think he said it was a mistake. He just said it was his choice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy Snake Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Detournement said: I don't think he said it was a mistake. He just said it was his choice. Having reread it, you're quite correct. I was just misremembering part of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I think it's pretty obvious he decided not to go to the meeting to move the situation onto a point where either Townsend made concessions or he got kicked out of the squad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 You would presume at age 27 and with 40 odd caps, that Russell would be part of any senior players group. He's quite right to be pissed off if they have set up all the rules without any input from him.I can't for the life of me understand why Russell and Maitland were expected to train on the Monday after playing on Sunday afternoon and travelling up straight after. Surely it wasn't too much to let them have a few beers, the same as the rest of the squad did on the Saturday, then have Monday off?I do think the bulk of the squad feel more loyalty to their employers, whereas Finn has gone to France and realised there is more than one way to manage players after 7 or 8 years under Townsend.Quoting my own post which never looks good. You would also have expected Maitland to be a part of any senior players group, but he was in the same boat as Russell in that arriving late they had already set the rules before he got there. That suggests to me that only the player's on the SRU payroll are considered worthy of coming up with ideas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevieda Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Quoting my own post which never looks good. You would also have expected Maitland to be a part of any senior players group, but he was in the same boat as Russell in that arriving late they had already set the rules before he got there. That suggests to me that only the player's on the SRU payroll are considered worthy of coming up with ideas. Seems a bit shit but Maitland doesnt seem to mind, and I dont think Finn really needed a 3rd pint.I'm all for binning Townsend though and getting a winner in to take charge. Give Gatland whatever he wants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Seems a bit shit but Maitland doesnt seem to mind, and I dont think Finn really needed a 3rd pint.I'm all for binning Townsend though and getting a winner in to take charge. Give Gatland whatever he wants. Maitland is nearer the end of his career than Russell and possibly doesn't want to rock the boat. If Russell is genuinely the only player in the squad who disagrees with how things are managed then it's going to be tough for Russell to return to the squad even if Townsend was to leave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afca32 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 10/02/2020 at 16:02, GNU_Linux said: I don't follow rugby but how has the Super 6 thingy fared so far? Early days but pretty positive signs so far. I was as cynical as just about anyone when the plans were announced but with a good mate playing in it (who is pretty close to pro level) couldn't help but get excited in the weeks before it started. Standard is apparently significantly improved on the Premiership, even if the personnel is fairly similar. Stirling and Muir unsurprisingly a wee bit behind but the latter beat leaders Watsonians in their last game and in the first few rounds almost every game was decided by 7 or less points. Crowds in the first few rounds were significantly up on what the clubs got in the Premiership, not sure if they are holding up or not but they seem to be marketing it far better. Being played from November-now has meant conditions for running rugby haven't always been ideal but the proposed switch to summer rugby next season will help with that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Don't want to sound like a Guardian editorial i.e. on the one hand...on the other but it is like that. Didn't like Townsend's reference to alcohol, made it seem like a mad drinking binge. If you're a supporter whose side do you take, George Best or Frank O' Farrell? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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come on shire Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Joy Neville's the ref for Glasgow vs Zebre on Friday night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honestly united Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Glasgow with a 2nd signing for next season with Argentian prop Pierietto signing from Exeter. Still young at 25, but 20 caps already. Only moved to Exeter on a short term deal after the world cup due to injuries. Hopefully he is adding to the squad and as cover for Fagerson and not as a replacement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 Adam Nicol has been guff and the Nuke is probably finished so they need another TH. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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