Neilly Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 The commentator here is doing my head in, you'd think Haavisto was just some guy they'd grabbed out of the crowd. Totally agree. Cracking player this lad his action reminds me of Alcinas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 That was a great workout for Ando, he goes through 3-1. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F_T_Y Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Good game.Good night of darts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerton Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Disgraceful condescension from Pyke in his commentary. 'Gary won't have heard of him before'. Anderson said in his interview with Bristow that he did know him! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Love III Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 The commentator here is doing my head in, you'd think Haavisto was just some guy they'd grabbed out of the crowd. Absolutely. I'm not sure what's happened to Stuart Pyke, who I used to regard as being a very strong commentator. But, recently, he seems to have turned into Martin Tyler, enjoying the sound of his own voice far too much, and thinking he's some sort of high quality analyst. That was a great workout for Ando, he goes through 3-1. It certainly was! Super match, and a very good performance from Anderson. A match that he will take much more benefit from, I'd fancy, than a comfortable stroll. Lets hope we see Haavisto again on the big stage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 (edited) Quality night of darts, compared to yesterday which was fuckin horrible. Barney in top form, Ando playing extremely well too. Haavisto played cracking darts too and took out some cracking checkouts under pressure. That game was just fucking gravy to watch, two fast players scoring heavily. Compare that to shite like Justin Pipe. Haavisto would have beaten the vast majority of seeds playing like that. Theres been some real muck performances amongst them, a shame he got drawn with one as strong as Anderson. Anderson is looking dangerous as f**k just now by the way and is a legit contender with Taylor in the other half. He'll give everyone a game bar Taylor, cause hes so deep in the back pocket. He even was bigging up Taylor there in the interview. Just hope that Haavisto can do more of the tour and doesn't disappear into the sunset due to a lack of finance. Edited December 16, 2012 by MTJ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Disgraceful condescension from Pyke in his commentary. 'Gary won't have heard of him before'. Anderson said in his interview with Bristow that he did know him! The pundits really don't have a clue do they? Just pluck shite of the air. Dave Clarke just said Anderson has been playing well on the circuit all year WHIT! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Love III Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Excellent! Sky showing a repeat of the van Barneveld match. I've just put the kettle on, and I'm going to watch it all over again.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 The key to Barney's return to form is Sylvia. Getting his hole on a regular basis when away on the tour seems to be doing wonders for his mental psyche. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Love III Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 Just hope that Haavisto can do more of the tour and doesn't disappear into the sunset due to a lack of finance. That's always the concern. Who knows, maybe some sponsors may be encouraged to support him after that performance. He clearly has the talent to be fairly successful on the circuit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Love III Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 The key to Barney's return to form is Sylvia. Getting his hole on a regular basis when away on the tour seems to be doing wonders for his mental psyche. And that right there is the sort of analysis and insight that we sadly don't get from the Sky Sports muppets.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanmistermustard Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 After years of Lawrenson, Motson, Mowbray, Townsend, Taylor Virgo and all the other arses who cover sport i've nearly become deaf to the shite commentators and analysts come out. Still cant watch itv football tho. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I think the days of seeds being like the Pieman, Osborne or (much as I love him) Ovens turning up and throwing 84 averages and progressing are starting to come to an end. The European players are advancing at an incredible rate. Huybrechts is obviously the best, but there are also guys from Spain, Germany and Haavisto progressing nicely. Even someone like Suljovic is a much better player than a good few of the seeded English guys. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I think the days of seeds being like the Pieman, Osborne or (much as I love him) Ovens turning up and throwing 84 averages and progressing are starting to come to an end. The European players are advancing at an incredible rate. Huybrechts is obviously the best, but there are also guys from Spain, Germany and Haavisto progressing nicely. Even someone like Suljovic is a much better player than a good few of the seeded English guys. Suljovic has had a pretty rotten year given that he didn't qualify, but I agree with your general point. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Love III Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 I think the days of seeds being like the Pieman, Osborne or (much as I love him) Ovens turning up and throwing 84 averages and progressing are starting to come to an end. The European players are advancing at an incredible rate. Huybrechts is obviously the best, but there are also guys from Spain, Germany and Haavisto progressing nicely. Even someone like Suljovic is a much better player than a good few of the seeded English guys. Absolutely. As soon as some of the top European players start to play regularly on the Pro Tour, like Huybrechts has done, it's only a matter of time until they break into the Top 32. In the past that has always been a safe haven for players like Smith and Ovens, but, unless they pick up their games, they will fall behind sooner rather than later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 (edited) Probably been said already, but I have had to watch with the sound off due to that utter w**k of a commentator continually saying "He's got no choice but to go for this (checkout) now", even when it's like 82 or 64. What, really? I thought he'd just have tried to set it up for his next visit. You total fud. Edited December 17, 2012 by H_B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Love III Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Probably been said already, but I have had to watch with the sound off due to that utter w**k of a commentator continually saying "He's got no choice but to go for this (checkout) now", even when it's like 82 or 64. What, really? I thought he'd just have tried to set it up for his next visit. You total fud. That sounds like Nigel Pearson. He's been muttering that line all week so far. Pathetic excuse for a commentator. It's at moments like this, I wonder what a Pie and Bovril Darts Commentary team would sound like....certainly not any worse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Absolutely. As soon as some of the top European players start to play regularly on the Pro Tour, like Huybrechts has done, it's only a matter of time until they break into the Top 32. In the past that has always been a safe haven for players like Smith and Ovens, but, unless they pick up their games, they will fall behind sooner rather than later. There is certainly players abroad now who would do wonders on the Pro Tour but it's certainly no gimme. Alcinas got a sponsor and played 18 events or something this year and has done next to nothing despite looking superb on the few times he's played on TV. Rodriguez I think played a good few and done nothing as well. Probably travelling to events every week must take it's toll as well though I think to make a proper go they would have to move to this country ala Whitlock for it to really work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 That sounds like Nigel Pearson. He's been muttering that line all week so far. Pathetic excuse for a commentator. It's at moments like this, I wonder what a Pie and Bovril Darts Commentary team would sound like....certainly not any worse. It's like he's never seen darts before. At first I thought he was mangling "He's got to get this now", but he repeated the same thing in the next 2 legs. Worse still, I think we were Mardled along with him. Which was too much for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Love III Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 There is certainly players abroad now who would do wonders on the Pro Tour but it's certainly no gimme. Alcinas got a sponsor and played 18 events or something this year and has done next to nothing despite looking superb on the few times he's played on TV. Rodriguez I think played a good few and done nothing as well. Probably travelling to events every week must take it's toll as well though I think to make a proper go they would have to move to this country ala Whitlock for it to really work. No doubt about it. A lack of sponsorship is holding these players back. It's expensive enough to play the Pro Tour based in Britain, never mind living on the continent. If you follow the results each week, the Tour is ridiculously competitive at times, and it can be so hard to make consistent progress. You see guys continually getting knocked out in the 2nd Round, walking away with £200 each week. The numbers don't add up. It's certainly no gimme, but the trend is going that way. There has always been a sense of security for more of the average PDC players, mostly because the depth wasn't there in the past, but it's progressively heading in that direction. As long as The Heat survives for a couple more years I'll be content enough... The current projected Top 32, taking into account the results so far this week. 28 - Steve Beaton - £82,700 29 - Ian White - £81,500 30 - Colin Osborne - £80,700 31 - Denis Ovens - £79,600 32 - Wayne Jones - £78,500 33 - Jamie Caven - £76,000 34 - Scott Rand - £65,800 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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