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Although I do think limiting the tech should happen, I'd rather see tougher course set ups first. DeChambeau had a driving accuracy of 58.93% this weekend (33 of 56 fairways hit) yet was able to get to 23 under par because there is no punishment for missing. The game should not become a power contest, there has to be a test of accuracy alongside it.

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Although I do think limiting the tech should happen, I'd rather see tougher course set ups first. DeChambeau had a driving accuracy of 58.93% this weekend (33 of 56 fairways hit) yet was able to get to 23 under par because there is no punishment for missing. The game should not become a power contest, there has to be a test of accuracy alongside it.


Agree with this. Faldo made and interesting point last night - god that doesn’t sound right - that where dechambeu is landing the ball now, most courses aren’t even close to being setup to punish that kind of distance. All rough/bunker complexes are sitting around the 280-320 yard range and he’s taking it all completely out of play.

Regards technology, obviously the tech has improved -mainly on off centre hits - but I think there’s plenty of evidence on YouTube that the distance claims by manufacturers in the last 10-15 years are largely marketing led selective data picking.

I actually think the biggest tech innovation/game changer in golf in the last 10-15 years is the advancement of trackman/gcquad and other launch monitors.

Fitters, TXG on YouTube for example highlight this really well (great content if nobody has seen it) that by being able to see exactly what’s happening on every swing they can optimise even the most average players clubs/launch conditions to help them gain 30-40 yards off the tee.

A proper driver fitting is my next golf investment, at 100mph on GC2 I know I’m giving away a lot of yards. I know I’ve preached about lessons being the best way to improve this but also confident a proper fitting will help.

Further to this, and I’ve mentioned it above, I think golf swing specific strength training is a sure fire way to add speed, distance and in turn improve my game.
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Although I do think limiting the tech should happen, I'd rather see tougher course set ups first. DeChambeau had a driving accuracy of 58.93% this weekend (33 of 56 fairways hit) yet was able to get to 23 under par because there is no punishment for missing. The game should not become a power contest, there has to be a test of accuracy alongside it.

Trouble is the USPGA want courses that look nice on TV with manicured rough, not the knee high stuff I was in at the weekend if I missed a fairway by 30 yards like Bryson did a couple of times. He missed the first 4 fairways yesterday (one of them by miles) but was 3 under for those holes. That can't be right, the straightest drivers are getting no benefit from hitting fairways.

 

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Trouble is the USPGA want courses that look nice on TV with manicured rough, not the knee high stuff I was in at the weekend if I missed a fairway by 30 yards like Brydon did a couple of times. He missed the first 4 fairways yesterday (one of them by miles) but was 3 under for those holes. That can't be right, the straightest drivers are getting no benefit from hitting fairways.


Again, while I totally agree with what you’re saying. I also had some awful rough that you’d never see on your this weekend.

Straight hitters still benefit from hitting fairways. Ryan armour is second on tour for driving accuracy finished T4 and T6 the last 2 weeks. Brendan Todd is 3rd and he’s had 2 wins this season and was in a great position 2 weeks ago until a disaster on Sunday.

Being accurate is still a benefit, because these guys still hit it 285 total distance, but they’re hitting 4 irons into greens other players are hitting gap wedges into. But there is no where near enough punishment for being 30 yards wide off the tee.
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Agree with this. Faldo made and interesting point last night - god that doesn’t sound right - that where dechambeu is landing the ball now, most courses aren’t even close to being setup to punish that kind of distance. All rough/bunker complexes are sitting around the 280-320 yard range and he’s taking it all completely out of play.

Regards technology, obviously the tech has improved -mainly on off centre hits - but I think there’s plenty of evidence on YouTube that the distance claims by manufacturers in the last 10-15 years are largely marketing led selective data picking.

I actually think the biggest tech innovation/game changer in golf in the last 10-15 years is the advancement of trackman/gcquad and other launch monitors.

Fitters, TXG on YouTube for example highlight this really well (great content if nobody has seen it) that by being able to see exactly what’s happening on every swing they can optimise even the most average players clubs/launch conditions to help them gain 30-40 yards off the tee.

A proper driver fitting is my next golf investment, at 100mph on GC2 I know I’m giving away a lot of yards. I know I’ve preached about lessons being the best way to improve this but also confident a proper fitting will help.

Further to this, and I’ve mentioned it above, I think golf swing specific strength training is a sure fire way to add speed, distance and in turn improve my game.
I'm 50 next January and my treat to myself will be a fully fitted driver. My swing speed is similar to yours so fully expecting a "senior" shaft.
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49 minutes ago, DigOutYourSoul said:

 



Being accurate is still a benefit, because these guys still hit it 285 total distance, but they’re hitting 4 irons into greens other players are hitting gap wedges into. But there is no where near enough punishment for being 30 yards wide off the tee.

This.

If you're that far offline, you should be playing from the jungle, not launching an 8I 230 like Bryson did last night

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They have to being strict OOB back into it.
Last night makes a mockery of the game.  
 


Internal OB was actually what I was thinking about last night on this, just don’t know how it would work practically.

On the courses I’ve played in the states, they’re all far better manicured in general than courses here when it comes to the rough. You can be pretty wild and not be punished by much more than some trees to navigate. Where as I hit a drive about 6 yards wide of the fairway on Saturday and was wading through waist high rough hoping to stand on my ball

Don’t strictly agree that it makes a “mockery” of the sport. Mcilroy is considered one of the “best” drivers in modern golf and his accuracy % is only 57% this season, 60% last season. Bryson this week was 59% and is 61% for the season. Not sure Rorys wins are met with claims of him making a mockery of the game.

The 8 iron everyone’s talking about was only a few yards off the edge of the fairway, hardly wild.
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We were talking on Saturday when we were playing, wondering if there will be any good deals to play the top Scottish courses this year as they will be down on visitors, especially the Americans and Japanese. An advert for Royal Aberdeen popped up on my Facebook tonight, offering a fourball at £125 per head rather than the usual £195.

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10 hours ago, quickoverayard said:

Well had my first ever outing at a range today. What I’ve got from it is this is going to be a very frustrating sport!!! I’ve booked a lesson for Friday at 4 so hopefully pick up a few tips

Yes it is, even for the pros!!!

wait till you hit a good one though, what a feeling!

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First post lockdown round for  me today!!!

I was really enjoying golf again at the end of 2019 after a 10 year break.

Went  on a long trip to Australia over Christmas so got out of practice and spent a few weeks at the driving range before getting out on the course against in the new year. 

I then played 2 rounds before getting dengue fever and having to spend some time in hospital and even when I got out again, I was wiped for energy, so didn’t get out on the course again for 2 months.

Played 1 more round before lockdown happened! 

Yesterday was my first round in 3 months and only 4th in 2020.

Needless to say I enjoyed it a lot!

Helped by smoking a 6I on the 1st to 12 foot and lipping out the bird putt.  

Shot 45 for first 9, which is excellent for me on that course, before wilting in the sun in the back 9 . Hit plenty of good golf shots with a few easy things to tidy up to score lower next time. 

Can’t wait!

 

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Yes it is, even for the pros!!!
wait till you hit a good one though, what a feeling!

I’m ok with my irons but the driver is a no go just now, playing north Berwick on Wednesday I’d be delighted if I can go round in 100 or less. I’m decent at putting as I bowl so my touch is good.... looking forward to actually getting a round.
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I’m pretty comfortable with my driver. I fade the ball naturally (sometimes an extreme fade) and seem to play courses with wider fairways. I’m not cleanly hitting my irons consistently enough so a lesson with that would be a great help. I’m ok out the bunker and decent enough with my short game around the greens. Can’t putt worth a f**k though, no idea how to read greens or speed. Any free tips are very much welcomed gents.

Iv been using this site. Don’t know if it’s of use to any of you.

https://free-online-golf-tips.com

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10 hours ago, peasy23 said:

We were talking on Saturday when we were playing, wondering if there will be any good deals to play the top Scottish courses this year as they will be down on visitors, especially the Americans and Japanese. An advert for Royal Aberdeen popped up on my Facebook tonight, offering a fourball at £125 per head rather than the usual £195.

Murcar was doing a deal for £50 a head a few weeks ago, think it's usually at least £100. Was tempted to just nab a time and go myself but thankful I didn't. My game was in no fit state to take on a difficult course!

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Murcar was doing a deal for £50 a head a few weeks ago, think it's usually at least £100. Was tempted to just nab a time and go myself but thankful I didn't. My game was in no fit state to take on a difficult course!


This is a great shout. Might give this a look, was aiming on bagging a few top 50 courses this summer so reduces fees are welcome.

Not quite in the top 50, as it’s just opened but will be playing Drumbarnie at the end of the month. By all accounts sounds like it’ll be a top 20 course in the country before long. 50% off for Scottish Residents in year one.
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The deal is still there on certain weekdays if that's peaked your interests.

I've had to take a bit of time away from golf with a bad back, don't think working from home has been great for my lanky frame. Was back to the driving range this afternoon though and no significant issues so going to try and give 9 holes a bash tomorrow evening.

Think I'll be looking to snatch a time there once I've made sure I can manage 18 holes without making that worse.

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