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I was going to say yesterday you'd be better coming down here for a game as piperdam might not be in great condition with the rain.
What did you think of the course? Aside from playing off matts?

It was the layer of snow that did it for Piperdam.

Course was alright, although the tractors were out in force doing the greens, so a few were a bit bumpy. Would like to play it in the summer, although I hate to think how quick the greens would be.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/39120332
It will be interesting to see how many of these changes actually get the green light.
 


Remove any penalty for accidentally moving your ball
- Potentially agree though could lead to issues such as removing loose impediments when ball likely to move


Relax the protocols for taking free or penalty drops, with the ball dropped from only an inch above the ground, rather than shoulder height.
- Bizarre. No

Use fixed distances (20 or 80 inches) rather than club lengths to measure areas where a ball should be dropped.
- Fine in theory but does a club not give some certainty over the distance for relief? Will we be expected to carry a tape measure instead?

Reduce the time allowed to search for a lost ball from five to three minutes.
- No way

Allow putting on the green with the flagstick left in the hole.
- Agree.

Allow players to repair spike marks and animal damage on greens.
- Agree

Automatically allow the use of distance measuring devices.
- Agree but local rules in force almost everywhere anyway

Ban caddies from lining up players as they prepare to hit.
- Disagree

Recommend no player takes more than 40 seconds to hit a shot.
- Recommend? A recommendation will do little to speed up slow players. Not sure how many folk spend over 40 seconds having addressed the ball regardless

Encourage players in strokeplay to implement "ready golf" rather than waiting until it is their turn to hit.
- Absolutely agree. This could speed up the game significantly IMO

Empower committees to set a maximum score for a hole (such as double par or triple bogey) to allow a player to pick up and move to the next hole.
- Not required. We already have the Stableford adjustment rule for bad scores. In strokeplay your score must be your score scored.

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Remove any penalty for accidentally moving your ball
- Potentially agree though could lead to issues such as removing loose impediments when ball likely to move


Relax the protocols for taking free or penalty drops, with the ball dropped from only an inch above the ground, rather than shoulder height.
- Bizarre. No

Use fixed distances (20 or 80 inches) rather than club lengths to measure areas where a ball should be dropped.
- Fine in theory but does a club not give some certainty over the distance for relief? Will we be expected to carry a tape measure instead?

Reduce the time allowed to search for a lost ball from five to three minutes.
- No way

Allow putting on the green with the flagstick left in the hole.
- Agree.

Allow players to repair spike marks and animal damage on greens.
- Agree

Automatically allow the use of distance measuring devices.
- Agree but local rules in force almost everywhere anyway

Ban caddies from lining up players as they prepare to hit.
- Disagree

Recommend no player takes more than 40 seconds to hit a shot.
- Recommend? A recommendation will do little to speed up slow players. Not sure how many folk spend over 40 seconds having addressed the ball regardless

Encourage players in strokeplay to implement "ready golf" rather than waiting until it is their turn to hit.
- Absolutely agree. This could speed up the game significantly IMO

Empower committees to set a maximum score for a hole (such as double par or triple bogey) to allow a player to pick up and move to the next hole.
- Not required. We already have the Stableford adjustment rule for bad scores. In strokeplay your score must be your score scored.


Out of interest why do you disagree with banning caddies from aligning players as they prepare to shoot. It's a bizarre development in the professional game.

The only other one My opinion is different to yours is the 3 minute rule. 5 minutes is a long time to look for a lost ball and is essentially the time between tee times at a lot of courses. One lost ball can clog up the whole course.

Ready golf is the one I like the most as it can be a major help at speeding up the game.

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Slow play is a proper pain in the arse, but they need to have different guidelines for pros and club players. I would hazard a guess that if "ready golf" means that you are getting all set to play your shot while your playing partner/partners are hitting then the vast majority of club players already do it. (Although I see other definitions that suggest that it means that the 1st player ready to hit plays his ball, regardless of who is furthest from the hole).

I've joined Bishobriggs and like many clubs the local rule is that GPS watches/phone apps etc can be used as long as all they show is distance and not the wind or elevation/inclines.

The problem with lost balls isn't just the time taken to look for a ball, and 5 minutes isn't unreasonable IMO, but if the player hasn't hit a provisional then it's all the mucking about with the player going back to hit another ball, whether that be off the tee or trying to find the closest spot to the previous shot. Why not just drop a ball in the vicinity of where it was lost (and agreed upon by your playing partners) and add a 2 shot penalty. E.G. you hit your second through the back of a green, 5 minutes looking doesn't find it, drop a ball in the area and hit your 5th from there?

As for some of the others:

Penalty drop procedure, strange idea and no need to change.

Caddies lining up shots, a no-no for me, up to the player to do that imo.

Maximum score per hole, again no need, if it's stroke-play then you have to finish the hole. Having a maximum score is cheating imo, you could have someone playing the round of his life apart from a  few holes, but his card is saved by having a maximum score on those holes.

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Slow play is a proper pain in the arse, but they need to have different guidelines for pros and club players. I would hazard a guess that if "ready golf" means that you are getting all set to play your shot while your playing partner/partners are hitting then the vast majority of club players already do it. (Although I see other definitions that suggest that it means that the 1st player ready to hit plays his ball, regardless of who is furthest from the hole).
I've joined Bishobriggs and like many clubs the local rule is that GPS watches/phone apps etc can be used as long as all they show is distance and not the wind or elevation/inclines.
The problem with lost balls isn't just the time taken to look for a ball, and 5 minutes isn't unreasonable IMO, but if the player hasn't hit a provisional then it's all the mucking about with the player going back to hit another ball, whether that be off the tee or trying to find the closest spot to the previous shot. Why not just drop a ball in the vicinity of where it was lost (and agreed upon by your playing partners) and add a 2 shot penalty. E.G. you hit your second through the back of a green, 5 minutes looking doesn't find it, drop a ball in the area and hit your 5th from there?
As for some of the others:
Penalty drop procedure, strange idea and no need to change.
Caddies lining up shots, a no-no for me, up to the player to do that imo.
Maximum score per hole, again no need, if it's stroke-play then you have to finish the hole. Having a maximum score is cheating imo, you could have someone playing the round of his life apart from a  few holes, but his card is saved by having a maximum score on those holes.


The second definition is what I understand from ready golf. If people are further back and not ready to play, assuming it's safe to do so, you should play your ball. f242d660c1be81cef2dfbb029860aca7.jpg

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Out of interest why do you disagree with banning caddies from aligning players as they prepare to shoot. It's a bizarre development in the professional game.

 

The only other one My opinion is different to yours is the 3 minute rule. 5 minutes is a long time to look for a lost ball and is essentially the time between tee times at a lot of courses. One lost ball can clog up the whole course.

 

Ready golf is the one I like the most as it can be a major help at speeding up the game.

 

I'd leave the pros to it. I don't really see any need to tinker with any rules that don't affect amateurs.

 

I absolutely agree regarding ready golf and think this could drastically speed up General play.

 

In terms of time taken for a lost ball, I see your point but 5 mins isn't really excessive. If folk are going to lose a tonne of balls then play will be slow whether it's 3 or 5 mins to find it.

Personally, I'd appreciate the extra 2 mins to find my ball if I was on a score with a couple of holes to go.

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Played my first round since October even though I said I'd play through the winter and didn't again. 91 with 3 birdies and an 8 on the card which isn't too bad considering, here's too a good season and a few shots coming off the handicap again. 

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Played my first round since October even though I said I'd play through the winter and didn't again. 91 with 3 birdies and an 8 on the card which isn't too bad considering, here's too a good season and a few shots coming off the handicap again. 


3 birdies is a good return by anyone's standard.

After a strong winter showing my team placed 3rd in Saturday's Texas scramble. Tee game wasn't quite there but rest of my game was decent, putted well and had a couple of 2s on my own.

Good start and looking forward to this weekend's team event.

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Second in my first medal of the year by 1 shot. So annoying considering there were 2 tiddler putts that i missed. Hopefully keep that up when the counters start.

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Second in my first medal of the year by 1 shot. So annoying considering there were 2 tiddler putts that i missed. Hopefully keep that up when the counters start.


Not sure you want to keep missing tiddlers!

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20 hours ago, Dazzle said:

Played my first round since October even though I said I'd play through the winter and didn't again. 91 with 3 birdies and an 8 on the card which isn't too bad considering, here's too a good season and a few shots coming off the handicap again. 

Where you playing???Need to get a round

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37 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

Where you playing???Need to get a round

Still at leven links, we can get down for a game when your home. Just lemme know when suits. 

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4 minutes ago, Dazzle said:

Still at leven links, we can get down for a game when your home. Just lemme know when suits. 

Will let you know

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1st medal of the season yesterday. Drove the ball beautifully but didn`t take advantage. 5 double bogeys 3 of which were due to missed short putts. Frustrating.

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I bit the bullet and I'm taking lessons in a bid to get to single figure handicap (currently 11.8).

Playing great at times then I have serious brain fades.  Par front 9 :thumsup2, followed by 10 over for back 9. :wacko:

First lesson was really just basics - my posture had slumped a wee bit and my hands were too strong and I was over-swinging a little.

Second lesson was putting - looking at hole while practicing (rather than at ball), blind putting (committing to stroke), two ball challenge etc

 

You can teach old dogs new tricks! :rolleyes:

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Anybody got shotscope or know anyone that has? Tempted to buy it. Would love to be able to look back and analyse where my round went wrong

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