MarreZ Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I think that in reality the strips I have bought for my lad has always been good value. It is worn many times and washed , worn and washed and lasts for ages.In comparison to a jumper or t shirt of the same price, I think it holds up . The kids stuff obviously does get better value, no grown man should walk around with a football top on, on any other day than match day. Kids stuff gets well worn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooper Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I think that in reality the strips I have bought for my lad has always been good value. It is worn many times and washed , worn and washed and lasts for ages. Would Morton strips pass that particular test though?...I suspect we'll never know. Replica kit manufacturers will argue that they have to sell their gear at the prices they do because the have a limited market. So long as they have a niche market, and we're daft enought to accommodate it, their prices will not go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 A DC United shirt is $80 = £40. That is the same price as a football shirt in this country. They're still a rip off though. DC United Apologies if this has been posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarreZ Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Did you knit it? Actually, i just gave him my scarf i bought last year when i was cold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooper Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 no grown man should walk around with a football top on, on any other day than match day. I have to agree with this. A most undignified practice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Div Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 The "value" of any item in life is simply what people are prepared to pay to have it. I'd wager that St.Mirren sell roughly the same number of replica shirts year on year. It's always going to be the same punters that buy it, unless the design is utterly honking or the quality suddenly becomes appalling. The people that buy replica shirts are not particularly price sensitive to that item. Sure they will mump and moan a bit, but they'll still buy it anyway. There is also an absolute ceiling to the number of shirts a provincial club in Scotland can sell. The badge on the jersey restricts it to a very small market and all the aggressive pricing in the world ain't going to make much difference to that. If a St.Mirren shirt was a fiver this season Stuart would you have bought one ? Charging £25 to watch a poor quality Scottish Premier League match is far more damaging to the game in this country than the price of a replica shirt, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby_F Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Surely everyone's missing the real point of this thread? The price of football kits is merely a background for the real story... Stuart "I've eaten too many cakes" Dickson telling us all about his trip to 'exclusive' resorts and eating in 'protentious' restaurants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 to be honest most people that cut about in football kits (while not playing football) are plebs and desereve to be parted from their money. how many people in scotland will pay 50 quid for a shite polyester t-shirt but won't shell out 300 bucks for a season ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 £40 for a fitba' top? A top you can wear to the games, you can wear on holiday, you can wear while out with your mates, and you can wear while actually playing five a side fitba'. An extremely versatile piece of clothing. I cannot think of one other piece of clothing in my wardrobe at the £40 mark that I can get so much use out of, in so many different places. Fitba' tops are a bargain. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadio Delle Almondvale Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 £40 for a fitba' top? A top you can wear to the games, you can wear on holiday, you can wear while out with your mates, and you can wear while actually playing five a side fitba'.An extremely versatile piece of clothing. I cannot think of one other piece of clothing in my wardrobe at the £40 mark that I can get so much use out of, in so many different places. Fitba' tops are a bargain. B) Well said that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Nation Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Did you read Football Nations post? Look it's a well thought out response from a man who makes a living selling the said football shirts. Ofcourse he wants to protect his business against any kind of shirt boycott. He does make good points but he also admits to one thing - that sportwear companies have a low margin on these kits and that clubs put a high mark up on them as it is a major revenue provider for every club. Not that it's worth pointing that out to you are you are clearly too stupid to understand having blown £50 on a shite piece of material that would retail unbadged at less than a quarter of what you paid for it. I think you misunderstand part of my post. Clearly I make a living from retailing football merchandise although I try very hard not to depend upon the replica shirt part of this trade. We are a specialist of all licensed football gear. Retailers make far less profit on a replica shirt than almost any other product. In fact more money can be made on selling an unbadged product where companies like Adidas make an obscene profit. Unfortunately for retailers, the replica shirt drives people into their shop which is why they will always be there. Whether you like them or not they are an intrinsic part of football and they will still be long after we have all gone. However it is very unfair of you to continue to ignore that your post is very misleading when in fact prices in the UK are the best value in Europe and would be on par with the US if it wasn't for the exchange rate and an artificial pricing deal done with one supplier who has a monopoly on the market. Please don't be mislead by the many websites who use the "prices from" tactic which shows a replica shirt starting at a low price. These are prices for kids not adults. And don't quote sale prices, that hardly counts. So, fact; British football fans get the best deals on kits and don't forget the most important reason for buying a replica shirt. Wherever you buy it, a portion of the money paid will find it's way to your chosen club. In Scotland that cash is vital to keep your club, a part of the local community going. If you don't like replica shirts that's fine but don't mislead people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Stuart "I've eaten too many cakes" Dickson came back from his Florida Disney holiday and immediately wanted a divorce. The divorce court judge said "I'm sorry Mr. Dickson, but I cannot grant a divorce simply because your wife is stupid." Dicky replies "I didn't say she was stupid, I said she was fcuking goofy." Boom boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Surely everyone's missing the real point of this thread?The price of football kits is merely a background for the real story... Stuart "I've eaten too many cakes" Dickson telling us all about his trip to 'exclusive' resorts and eating in 'protentious' restaurants. Ah.I wasn't the only one to spot this then. P.s.I think it's "pretentious" you're looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTOF Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 I think you misunderstand part of my post. Clearly I make a living from retailing football merchandise although I try very hard not to depend upon the replica shirt part of this trade. We are a specialist of all licensed football gear. Retailers make far less profit on a replica shirt than almost any other product. In fact more money can be made on selling an unbadged product where companies like Adidas make an obscene profit. Unfortunately for retailers, the replica shirt drives people into their shop which is why they will always be there. Whether you like them or not they are an intrinsic part of football and they will still be long after we have all gone. However it is very unfair of you to continue to ignore that your post is very misleading when in fact prices in the UK are the best value in Europe and would be on par with the US if it wasn't for the exchange rate and an artificial pricing deal done with one supplier who has a monopoly on the market. Please don't be mislead by the many websites who use the "prices from" tactic which shows a replica shirt starting at a low price. These are prices for kids not adults. And don't quote sale prices, that hardly counts. So, fact; British football fans get the best deals on kits and don't forget the most important reason for buying a replica shirt. Wherever you buy it, a portion of the money paid will find it's way to your chosen club. In Scotland that cash is vital to keep your club, a part of the local community going. If you don't like replica shirts that's fine but don't mislead people. Good to see someone who actually knows what they're talking about, rather than surfing the internet and googling to get their "facts". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabinho Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 If you bought him the Barca strip from their official outlet you'd have got the shirt, socks and shorts for 39.01 Euros - or £30.89 in Sterling. Check the website, it's all there. You're right though, how can we expect kids to walk round the streets of Motherwell or Paisley wearing their local club colours when clubs mark up their official kits so heavily. At least Rangers and Celtic kits can be bought more cheaply if you shop around, there is nowhere else to shop if you want a St Mirren or a Motherwell kit. Like I said it's no wonder so many kids have strips from other countries these days. I guess like my family we find Scottish Footballs rip off prices a massive leap too far. In which case why don't you approach every chairman in Scottish Football with a business plan? It worked a treat when you did it at Love St Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Stu, I have my receipt here from the United World Soccer store at Festival Bay mall. Two Columbus Crew tops, home and away $30.00 each. An FC Dallas top $30.00. Home and Away Coronado Rapids tops, adult medium size £35.00 each. Chicago Fire tops, home and away $30.00 each. Real Salt Lake home and away tops $30.00 each. New England Revolution home top, adult medium size $32.00. We could have added printing to the back for a further $20 but that seemed like a pointless waste of money however compared to UK prices again that is substancially cheaper. I trust that you did notify HMRC by going through the Red "Something to Declare" channel and pay the required Import Duty as you appear to have broken the limit of £145 worth of all other goods including gifts and souvenirs as a result of these purchases which total $312. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Surely everyone's missing the real point of this thread?The price of football kits is merely a background for the real story... Stuart "I've eaten too many cakes" Dickson telling us all about his trip to 'exclusive' resorts and eating in 'protentious' restaurants. Don't forget - while doing this he dines out with high ranking executives from some of the world's biggest companies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svensen Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 All these facts and figures are clouding the issue here. When you have to factor in US and EU/GB exchange rates along with fuel consumption in countries with differing engine sizes and types as well as distances covered in transportation of goods coupled with the factor of the popularity of a certain sport in the US compared to the associated merchandise or more popular sports, we're really trying to compare apples and oranges. I feel no-one has accurately answered the most salient point in all this, to which I think no-one on this forum has the answer for... How much are Pringles??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svensen Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Really. Ok here goes...we went for dinner at an exclusive restaurant, the California Grill in the 5 star Disney Contemporary Resort. It was probably the most protentious place I've eaten in for a few years. We each has Sushi, then a starter, then more sushi, a main course of halibut, two bottles of 1978 Reisling, polished off with a dessert and the standard latte coffee to finish. Meal for four cost $150 including the tip - so approx £75. On the way back from Manchester yesterday we stopped at a pizza place just off the M6 motorway. We had a cheeze pizza where the cheese part was apparently heavilly rationed, had some soft drinks and a small side salad that looked as withered as my feet do after two weeks hard walking. Total cost £67.95. Disney resorts are only rip offs if you are willing to compare the price of their fine dining against a Ponderosa or Cracker Barrel outlet two miles away. Ofcourse that's like comparing the Ivy with your local McDonalds but hey some folk aren't that fussy... :lol: The bit I like the best isn't the fact that we're discussing the old 'things are dearer here than in the US' but the "exclusive" restaurant in all this isn't the Bentley Kimpinski in Knightsbridge, Le Meurice in gay Paree or even Alain Ducasse's in the Essex House in good ol'NYC but the 5 star California Grill in the Disney Resort Michelin have really missed a trick there, I hear the Cheeseburger a la Chili Salsa is to die for... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law Stud Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 I think you misunderstand part of my post. Clearly I make a living from retailing football merchandise although I try very hard not to depend upon the replica shirt part of this trade. We are a specialist of all licensed football gear. Retailers make far less profit on a replica shirt than almost any other product. In fact more money can be made on selling an unbadged product where companies like Adidas make an obscene profit. Unfortunately for retailers, the replica shirt drives people into their shop which is why they will always be there. Whether you like them or not they are an intrinsic part of football and they will still be long after we have all gone. However it is very unfair of you to continue to ignore that your post is very misleading when in fact prices in the UK are the best value in Europe and would be on par with the US if it wasn't for the exchange rate and an artificial pricing deal done with one supplier who has a monopoly on the market. Please don't be mislead by the many websites who use the "prices from" tactic which shows a replica shirt starting at a low price. These are prices for kids not adults. And don't quote sale prices, that hardly counts. So, fact; British football fans get the best deals on kits and don't forget the most important reason for buying a replica shirt. Wherever you buy it, a portion of the money paid will find it's way to your chosen club. In Scotland that cash is vital to keep your club, a part of the local community going. If you don't like replica shirts that's fine but don't mislead people. How can UK kit prices be the best in Europe when you can buy official licenced football shirts right across Europe, and indeed in the US, for a great deal less than we get charged at home? How can you claim the best value for money when the kits are generally made by poorer quality brands. Look at the brand names making the products - Hummell, Bukta, Errea, Umbro, or even Killie's apparently unbranded effort. You've got a shop full of the things, compare them with the quality of an Adidas kit. How do you explain childrens prices not getting the full VAT discount from adult prices, when childrens clothing is VAT free? And finally, do you agree that the sole reason for a kit that normally sells unbadged at less than £20 costing upwards of £70 and £80 is because these lovely little community clubs are massively inflating prices? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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