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Performance is fucking disgusting.  A shower of cowardly cheats.
I accepted collapses like this when pish in early nineties not now.
A weak captain, a coach on his way out.  Get Morgan in to captain, average not the best bit worth it for his leadership skills.
Feeble, weak b*****d.
 
Given how bad the supposed red ball specialist batsmen are, they would be as well as throwing Roy, Morgan and Hales in. They will go in just as many balls but will score 2 or 3 times more runs in the process. Utter shambles of a tour and Root has to accept he is not captaincy material and just concentrate on being the world class batsman he is.
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Writing off Root way too quickly. He’s an excellent player with a top notch attitude. Could certainly grow into the position - like Smith did for the Australians.

I don’t think Foakes glovework justifies his mediocre bat. I’d be inclined to drop him. What else to do, I don’t know.

The problem is that the top three are out for 55 too often.

Not sure Morgan is really test class, and in fact he’s said so himself. Can’t magic up new, better players.

Still, I wouldn’t put the Ashes beyond this side, because they’re actually pretty decent in English swinging conditions.

Burns is probably one of the openers, but I genuinely can’t think of anyone else.

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Writing off Root way too quickly. He’s an excellent player with a top notch attitude. Could certainly grow into the position - like Smith did for the Australians.

I don’t think Foakes glovework justifies his mediocre bat. I’d be inclined to drop him. What else to do, I don’t know.

The problem is that the top three are out for 55 too often.

Not sure Morgan is really test class, and in fact he’s said so himself. Can’t magic up new, better players.

Still, I wouldn’t put the Ashes beyond this side, because they’re actually pretty decent in English swinging conditions.

Burns is probably one of the openers, but I genuinely can’t think of anyone else.


Haseeb if they can get his dad into the sea, it is getting to the stage that 2nd XI players will come to the fore as they are the only batsmen who are getting red ball experience in mid season when the 1st Class players are all tied up with 50 over and T20 stuff.
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Decent game in the ODI between NZ and India. India scored 252, and if looked like any chance the Kiwis had had gone when we Grandhomme went at 135-6. Neesham then keep them in it before getting himself inexplicably run out. 189/7 now with 10 overs left.

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Tony Greig, Colin Graves, Mark Nicholas, Geoffrey Boycott & all the other English cricketers who played in Apartheid South Africa, Douglas Jardine, W.G. Grace - can you hear me? Theresa May, your boys took one hell of a beating! Your boys took one hell of a beating!

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Foakes left out of the 12 for the final test, with Woakes injured. Jennings back in and hints are he will open with Denly dropping to 3. Stokes has a bruised heel but makes the 12 after getting through training today.


I have no idea how that XI lines up. I think the Bairstow at three experiment is over. Unless it isn’t, and Denly bats at 6.

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Burns

Jennings

Denly

Root

Buttler

Bairstow

Stokes

Then whatever bowlers they pick?

 

Yeah. Seems reasonable. But I think the selection has lost any kind of focus. Time for coaching changes, I reckon.

 

Edit: if that team isn’t 55/3 at some point I will be staggered.

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Yeah. Seems reasonable. But I think the selection has lost any kind of focus. Time for coaching changes, I reckon.
Definitely. How you get to the point where you have nearly as many wicket keepers as specialist batsmen in the team is beyond me. Interestingly, Cook was interviewed earlier and didn't rule out ever playing for England again.
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Interesting listening to Atherton on how a test team should be set up, all rounder at 6 wk at 7. The discussion then moved to bairstow being too good a batsman to run out of partners. If that is the case then play bairstow at 6 then you have Stokes, Ali and Curran all still to come who can bat

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