AberdeenBud Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Not according to any reports from any part of the investigation so far. People should be careful what they say from behind their keyboards. Apart from the part of the investigation where the PJ made them official suspects that is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Nobody's. He made it up. That's why it's defamatory. He just giving another point of view of what MIGHT have happened. You need to calm down a bit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 He just giving another point of view of what MIGHT have happened. You need to calm down a bit. No, he claimed to have a source for the McCaans drugging their children. That's different from just saying "What if..." Word was that the McCanns gave their kids the type of "night cap" sedatives regularly dished out in children's wards before lights out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Phoenix Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 It's probably not the case that the McCanns killed her (despite the lurid stories about Kate being a closet psycho & saying Maddie was "a mistake" - plenty of parents go through phases when they can see their kids far enough), but Maddie being killed by accident when alone in the apartment was. As any A&E department will tell you, infants are brilliant at damaging themselves seriously without their parents or anyone else's help, & a fall from a couch or chair at the wrong angle could easily result in a dislocated limb - or a broken neck. Word was that the McCanns gave their kids the type of "night cap" sedatives regularly dished out in children's wards before lights out. Had they been doing so regularly, it was possible that Maddie's body had started getting used to it & the usual dosage hadn't worked. A half-doped infant wandering around a dark flat wondering where her parents are would be an accident waiting to happen - perhaps fatally. Now picture the scene: one of the McCanns came back to a corpse. As medics, they know full well an autopsy would have brought up the drug in her system & the shitstorm would have commenced over two parents leaving drugged kids alone in an apartment which had it caught fire (eg. via an electrical fault) they won't have stood a chance - let alone the rule of thumb in the medical profession that a child under any form of sedation, no matter how mild, is NEVER left unattended, even for a moment. Suddenly they found themselves facing professional disgrace (& if they'd obtained the sedatives illicitly, most certainly being struck off) & financial ruin at best, at worst having their remaining children taken off them & even jail. Moreover, Maddie wasn't the only one partly sedated that night - the McCanns had been enjoying a damn good bucket of El Vino Collapso. Drunk people do incredibly stupid things, especially when they're in a panic. As for why the McCanns are still banging on about it rather than trying to let matters lie, most likely as a deterrent to anyone they don't want digging around the case, the implicit threat being "say anything publicly to suggest we have been perverting the course of justice & we'll sue the arse off you". Until that Portuguese cop Goncalo Amaral dies, my guess is they'll be doing so for some time to come. ^^^ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverSinging Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 He just giving another point of view of what MIGHT have happened. You need to calm down a bit. I think he's a paedophile. Hey it MIGHT be true right? Who know's? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaffenThinMint Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 So do you have a source for the McCaans drugging their children or did you just make it up? He just made it up, tbf, but it's not an unreasonable train of thought. There's about as much evidence for that as there is for an abduction. Not according to any reports from any part of the investigation so far. People should be careful what they say from behind their keyboards. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm Far from "making it up", it was the main plank of the Portuguese police case for making the McCanns "arguidos" in the first place - the one they leaked to the Portuguese press whom the McCanns threatened to sue, only to quietly drop the Portuguese cases in 2009. The reason the police believed this explanation was it represented the only logical reason why they'd want to cover up a tragic accident. The McCanns had their remaining two children's hair tested to "prove" they hadn't been "regularly given drugs" six months later, but that was very much a straw man for the benefit of the British press - without Maddie's body both the McCanns & the police knew it could never be proven she ever had. As for "defamation", TheWolf, you really need to get yourself a Snickers, because you are turning into a right diva. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-ARGUIDO.htm Far from "making it up", it was the main plank of the Portuguese police case for making the McCanns "arguidos" in the first place - the one they leaked to the Portuguese press whom the McCanns threatened to sue, only to quietly drop the Portuguese cases in 2009. The reason the police believed this explanation was it represented the only logical reason why they'd want to cover up a tragic accident. The McCanns had their remaining two children's hair tested to "prove" they hadn't been "regularly given drugs" six months later, but that was very much a straw man for the benefit of the British press - without Maddie's body both the McCanns & the police knew it could never be proven she ever had. As for "defamation", TheWolf, you really need to get yourself a Snickers, because you are turning into a right diva. The only mention of sedatives in your link is this: When questioned, he says he never gave his children anything to help them sleep, nor did Kate. Is this your source? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiemunster Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 When does a person's body start to smell like a cadaver? The thing with the dogs has me wondering. If she was dead in the apartment it must only have been for a short period of time. So at what point during this time does your body go from smelling alive to dead? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 When does a person's body start to smell like a cadaver? The thing with the dogs has me wondering. If she was dead in the apartment it must only have been for a short period of time. So at what point during this time does your body go from smelling alive to dead? The car was hired 25 days after Madeleine went missing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 It's probably not the case that the McCanns killed her (despite the lurid stories about Kate being a closet psycho & saying Maddie was "a mistake" - plenty of parents go through phases when they can see their kids far enough), but Maddie being killed by accident when alone in the apartment was. As any A&E department will tell you, infants are brilliant at damaging themselves seriously without their parents or anyone else's help, & a fall from a couch or chair at the wrong angle could easily result in a dislocated limb - or a broken neck. Word was that the McCanns gave their kids the type of "night cap" sedatives regularly dished out in children's wards before lights out. Had they been doing so regularly, it was possible that Maddie's body had started getting used to it & the usual dosage hadn't worked. A half-doped infant wandering around a dark flat wondering where her parents are would be an accident waiting to happen - perhaps fatally. Now picture the scene: one of the McCanns came back to a corpse. As medics, they know full well an autopsy would have brought up the drug in her system & the shitstorm would have commenced over two parents leaving drugged kids alone in an apartment which had it caught fire (eg. via an electrical fault) they won't have stood a chance - let alone the rule of thumb in the medical profession that a child under any form of sedation, no matter how mild, is NEVER left unattended, even for a moment. Suddenly they found themselves facing professional disgrace (& if they'd obtained the sedatives illicitly, most certainly being struck off) & financial ruin at best, at worst having their remaining children taken off them & even jail. Moreover, Maddie wasn't the only one partly sedated that night - the McCanns had been enjoying a damn good bucket of El Vino Collapso. Drunk people do incredibly stupid things, especially when they're in a panic. As for why the McCanns are still banging on about it rather than trying to let matters lie, most likely as a deterrent to anyone they don't want digging around the case, the implicit threat being "say anything publicly to suggest we have been perverting the course of justice & we'll sue the arse off you". Until that Portuguese cop Goncalo Amaral dies, my guess is they'll be doing so for some time to come. So they were drunk, doing incredibly stupid things and in a panic but still managed to do such a good job at covering their trail? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 So they were drunk, doing incredibly stupid things and in a panic but still managed to do such a good job at covering their trail? In twenty minutes. And swear a lot of people to secrecy and a single story. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 In twenty minutes. And swear a lot of people to secrecy and a single story. And not let their guard slip or lose their cool in six and a half years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eindhovendee Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 dogs don't lie Sleeping dogs do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 dogs don't lie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfUgp_UfIYY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Sleeping dogs do. Only if you let them... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain kirk Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Elaborate?.....someone opened the window and took our daughter, not exactly Lex Luthor like in it's complexity. Exactly ..they didnt create any story they just said she was missing..the story then creates itself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Daft Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Aye but making up fake timelines, staging bogus half hourly checks, getting accomplices to make up fake sightings of non-existent men carrying a child, all of that would be quite elaborate. Not quite that elaborate when two of the descriptions given of these mystery people with a child look like Kate and Gerrry themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 The wolf strikes me as one of those people that as soon as they become a parent for the first time go absolutely out of their way to be offended by any joke about children. I'd be genuinely surprised if he hasn't had a child quite recently, given all the faux hand-wringing. Like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoJVlyCGG2c 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Nederlander Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Exactly ..they didnt create any story they just said she was missing..the story then creates itself. And then tidy away any evidence of course ... and hide a body so well that it's not been found in nearly seven years ! Simples ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 I was looking for that clip recently for all the MOPEs who were going on recently about how they would never leave their children alone for a split second and were saying that anyone who didn't think the McCanns were despicable parents could only be childless themselves. Not quite sure what point you're trying to make here, although I am pretty sure you're offended by it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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