Gaz Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, The Skelpit Lug said: My point is the opposite to that. It's clearly not meat, I just find it odd that there's not vegan-specific names for what it is, rather than what it isn't. Why? Words like 'sausage', 'bacon' etc. are human constructs. So are 'burger' and 'rib'. The animals don't call themselves sausage and bacon. Anything can be called whatever you want it to be. What would your proposed alternative to a vegan hamburger be, for example? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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welshbairn Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, The Skelpit Lug said: My point is the opposite to that. It's clearly not meat, I just find it odd that there's not vegan-specific names for what it is, rather than what it isn't. Hamburger, beef burger, veggie burger, veggie sausages, who cares? Edited January 24, 2022 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurph Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 The recent trend of plant based food is great, as when I go to a restaurant I don’t have to order a macaroni cheese or a mushroom risotto every fucking time. Not that there’s anything wrong with them but it’s nice to have a choice. If you find yourself annoyed by a display of products in a supermarket, just walk away, stand in the real meat aisle and take some deep breaths. Don’t worry. They’re not going to take your precious bacon away. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I haven't heard any vegans get anywhere near remotely as angry as perma-seething meat-eaters when it comes to vegan food. A typical interaction goes like this: Gregg's: we're introducing a vegan sausage roll! Vegans: nice one, cheers! Perma-seething meat eaters: BLOODY VEGANS EATING ALL OUR FOOD IT'S CALLED A SAUSAGE ROLL HOW CAN IT BE CALLED A SAUSAGE ROLL IF THERE'S NO SAUSAGE BLOODY SNOWFLAKES LOVE A BACON SANDWICH MEJust waiting for Viz to introduce new cast member....... Biffa Vegan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gaz said: What would your proposed alternative to a vegan hamburger be, for example? I don't really have an alternative. I just find it odd that when marketing/advertising is tailored to the customer it seems a bit vague to use those labels. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, Gaz said: Why? Words like 'sausage', 'bacon' etc. are human constructs. So are 'burger' and 'rib'. The animals don't call themselves sausage and bacon. Anything can be called whatever you want it to be. What would your proposed alternative to a vegan hamburger be, for example? Bacon is a cut of meat and rib is a body part. The alternative to your suggestion is drop ham from the name. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Gaz said: Why? Words like 'sausage', 'bacon' etc. are human constructs. So are 'burger' and 'rib'. The animals don't call themselves sausage and bacon. Anything can be called whatever you want it to be. How do you account for the dog on That's Life that could say "sausages"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, coprolite said: How do you account for the dog on That's Life that could say "sausages"? He was just a show off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Who fucking cares what someone else eats? I'm neither vegan or vegetarian by the way. It just amuses me how raging people get over it.I think this is the bit that annoys people the most, being lectured constantly about how bad meat is by vegans is tedious but as you have said there is some amount of gammons foaming at the mouth because of vegan sausage rolls.It really should be eat what you want and mind your own business. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On the subject of ersatz meat products, i loved hotel breakfast buffets in Malaysia with beef bacon and chicken sausages. Plus rendang and noodles for breakfast is one of the best things of any type of anything in the world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Empty It said: It really should be eat what you want and mind your own business. Agree entirely but whatever it is should be very clearly labelled to avoid misrepresentation to normal people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Agree entirely but whatever it is should be very clearly labelled to avoid misrepresentation to normal people.Aye deliberately misleading people to eat something isnt right but let's be serious the vast majority of the time it says vegan before the foodstuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurph Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 23 minutes ago, The Skelpit Lug said: I don't really have an alternative. I just find it odd that when marketing/advertising is tailored to the customer it seems a bit vague to use those labels. The market isn’t really for vegans/vegetarians, as generally they know the brands and products available that they can buy from. It’s so that those looking to eat less meat don’t get freaked out at “mushroom and pea protein based lentil patty with red onion” and get put off. If it’s labelled as a burger, it’s more easy for “normal people” as @Newbornbairn put it, to try. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 My main contention seems to that a lot of these new veg products claim to be unsuitable for freezing. I’m not sure if this is genuine or the companies feel they make more money by suggesting this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, 101 said: The nick of the nails used for the Scottish Cup draw. Would it kill them to make folk wash their hands before appearing on TV They're clean for someone well acquainted with Salamander Street. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 54 minutes ago, Gaz said: Why? Words like 'sausage', 'bacon' etc. are human constructs. So are 'burger' and 'rib'. The animals don't call themselves sausage and bacon. Anything can be called whatever you want it to be. What would your proposed alternative to a vegan hamburger be, for example? A plantburger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 On 21/01/2022 at 18:21, BFTD said: There appears to have been an amnesty where her fans handed all copies of it in to charity shops in exchange for their lives. See also: Susan Boyle, Razorlight, Robbie Williams, post-reform Take That, and any Madonna album past 1994. Don't forget Toploader. Never forget Toploader. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 24 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said: Agree entirely but whatever it is should be very clearly labelled to avoid misrepresentation to normal people. I haven't ever seen any instance where it isn't clearly labelled. My daughter gets the very same ham and cheese toastie from Costa fairly regularly and it's labelled 'vegan'. 3 minutes ago, Left Back said: A plantburger That's exactly what I'm talking about. Why should they have to drop the 'ham' from the name but not the 'burger'? Both names are human inventions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Gaz said: I haven't ever seen any instance where it isn't clearly labelled. My daughter gets the very same ham and cheese toastie from Costa fairly regularly and it's labelled 'vegan'. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Why should they have to drop the 'ham' from the name but not the 'burger'? Both names are human inventions. Ham is a specific thing. It's a cut of meat from a pig. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/ham A burger is a food patty https://www.dictionary.com/browse/burger If you make a food patty out of something other than ham it's still a burger. It isn't a hamburger though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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