red23 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: You are very detached from reality if you think that is what is happening. For some it will be the case, but for what is almost certainly a much larger percentage it isn't and for them it really is a struggle. You're coming across quite Tory here. Stupid poors shouldn't be stupid! Aware of that but i've seen and experienced enough of this to form my own opinions I went to college, first thing when the bursary and loans came in? every single person in my class had spent the lot on new computers, clothes, phone within the month. Some of them had kids, not a penny was spent on bettering their lives, all for the benefit of them. Worked with a boy who had 30k worth of "student debt" this was accumulated because he said what you don't realise is all that credit you get through loans and cards? you actually have to pay it back and you don't think about it. Several girls i used to work on 20k jobs driving in with a brand new leased bmw/audi with their new build houses, a number of them lost their jobs and couldn't afford the lifestyle. An ex of mine who was on the dole EVERYNIGHT was takeaway costing about £30, never cooked for herself. I see how people handle money, they get it and it HAS to be spent on something. When i was 20 on 10k a year i saved the majority of it so i could buy myself a flat while the others were renting flats, buying cars and eating out weekly. They had zero interest in saving for the future. And i'll admit part of it's jealousy, i wish i could do these things and blindly spend money i should be saving but i want to be able to keep myself a float should i lose my job , become ill or need to look after the family. Edited May 20, 2021 by red23 -7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) £30 takeaways EVERY NIGHT on the dole? Nope. EVERY SINGLE PERSON in your class spent their student loan on new computers, phones, clothes every single month? Nope. Also, how could you possibly even know that? Saved the majority of £10k a year to buy a flat? Not impossible. How much were these flats?! How did you support yourself, i.e. pay bills and buy food etc whilst saving the majority of a £10k wage? £20k jobs with new build houses? Nope. You've lied here to try and prove your myopic point. Do you know much money you get on the dole? Suffice to say someone spending £30 a night on takeaways would be going hungry very quickly. £20k salary and getting a new build house? But how did they save for the deposit if they're spending all their cash like you claim? And what banks are lending to these people on that salary? People buying new phones and computers every month? So everyone ended up with multiple phones and computers? Every single one of them? Did you survey them all every single month to find this out? A guy with £30k student loan debt is irrelevant, as what he pays back depends on his salary. He could be paying back as little as £0 each month if he makes below £25,000 a year. There are definitely folk who are reckless spenders and there are folk who are careless or even clueless spenders. There's also folk who aren't financially literate. It's not like you get taught things about finance in school (although such things absolutely should be on the curriculum). However, there are sadly too many folk who are just struggling to get by as it is, for various reasons, and simply can't afford a deposit for a house or to put money in savings each month or pay more in to a pension etc. The cost of living keeps going up and wages are falling further behind. Edited May 20, 2021 by DA Baracus 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 If she was on the dole every night I think you need to up your pimp skills. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Ooft. Roasters gonna roast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclizine Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 55 minutes ago, red23 said: When i was 20 on 10k a year i saved the majority of it so i could buy myself a flat while the others were renting flats, buying cars and eating out weekly. They had zero interest in saving for the future. So you spent less than £5000 a year on your rent, food, utilities, bills and essentials? Absolute bollocks. You're either lying or you were still living with your parents. Edited May 20, 2021 by Cyclizine 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, red23 said: Aware of that but i've seen and experienced enough of this to form my own opinions I went to college, first thing when the bursary and loans came in? every single person in my class had spent the lot on new computers, clothes, phone within the month. Some of them had kids, not a penny was spent on bettering their lives, all for the benefit of them. Worked with a boy who had 30k worth of "student debt" this was accumulated because he said what you don't realise is all that credit you get through loans and cards? you actually have to pay it back and you don't think about it. Several girls i used to work on 20k jobs driving in with a brand new leased bmw/audi with their new build houses, a number of them lost their jobs and couldn't afford the lifestyle. An ex of mine who was on the dole EVERYNIGHT was takeaway costing about £30, never cooked for herself. I see how people handle money, they get it and it HAS to be spent on something. When i was 20 on 10k a year i saved the majority of it so i could buy myself a flat while the others were renting flats, buying cars and eating out weekly. They had zero interest in saving for the future. And i'll admit part of it's jealousy, i wish i could do these things and blindly spend money i should be saving but i want to be able to keep myself a float should i lose my job , become ill or need to look after the family. I take it this was a while ago and 60 inch tellies didn't exist? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empty It Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Imagine not living your life at 16-21 because you were saving for a mortgage that sound just terrible. Some of my fondest memories were nights when I blew 90% of my weekly wage at 18. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I honestly cannot remember much about my 20s tbh. Fucking glory days btw. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Raccoon Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I'd rather be skint than be a miserable c**t with no memories apart from Saturday nights in the house looking at my savings book and having a chug while everyone else is out actually enjoying life 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I'd rather be skint than be a miserable c**t with no memories apart from Saturday nights in the house looking at my savings book and having a chug while everyone else is out actually enjoying life There's probably a middle ground between those two tbf Bert [emoji38] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Euro 20/21 sun forum has been added to the International Football and Other Sports section. It's been added at the top of the list meaning I've clicked on the Women's Football tab by mistake at least half a dozen times instead of Other Sports. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I have a house and survived my 20s on Tennents, speed and kebab meat. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 23 hours ago, Rasputin said: ^^ The Message, just in case any heathens don’t know what these finely-dressed gents are doing here. Would have loved it if the tune was called The Messages. Saw him a few years ago. Outstanding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: I have a house and survived my 20s on Tennents, speed and kebab meat. Paid for in £500 notes as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 I have a house and survived my 20s on Tennents, speed and kebab meat.As well as plenty of doner after a night out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red23 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, DA Baracus said: £30 takeaways EVERY NIGHT on the dole? Nope. EVERY SINGLE PERSON in your class spent their student loan on new computers, phones, clothes every single month? Nope. Also, how could you possibly even know that? Saved the majority of £10k a year to buy a flat? Not impossible. How much were these flats?! How did you support yourself, i.e. pay bills and buy food etc whilst saving the majority of a £10k wage? £20k jobs with new build houses? Nope. You've lied here to try and prove your myopic point. Do you know much money you get on the dole? Suffice to say someone spending £30 a night on takeaways would be going hungry very quickly. £20k salary and getting a new build house? But how did they save for the deposit if they're spending all their cash like you claim? And what banks are lending to these people on that salary? People buying new phones and computers every month? So everyone ended up with multiple phones and computers? Every single one of them? Did you survey them all every single month to find this out? A guy with £30k student loan debt is irrelevant, as what he pays back depends on his salary. He could be paying back as little as £0 each month if he makes below £25,000 a year. There are definitely folk who are reckless spenders and there are folk who are careless or even clueless spenders. There's also folk who aren't financially literate. It's not like you get taught things about finance in school (although such things absolutely should be on the curriculum). However, there are sadly too many folk who are just struggling to get by as it is, for various reasons, and simply can't afford a deposit for a house or to put money in savings each month or pay more in to a pension etc. The cost of living keeps going up and wages are falling further behind. I've got no reason to lie but i can expand. ex had 2 kids got support from her kids dad who worked offshore and family. EVERYONE spunked the money away on nonsense not just computers - i knew because funny enough i was in a class with them and the discussion of what they bought was brought up regularly. 20k job but rented property Chose to stay at home extra year to save up deposit unlike mates. When i moved in to my first flat i was on 18k a year and lived quite comfortably despite a £650 mortgage so i'm not sure what people are doing. Flat was bought for 90k. As you see from the other replies some folk assume i had a sad life sitting in all the time? no i was just cautious and just knew how not to waste my money and save it for important things like going out getting pished. Edited May 20, 2021 by red23 -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, invergowrie arab said: I have a house and survived my 20s on Tennents, speed and kebab meat. Breakfast of champions 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 The folk not saving are putting money in the pockets of shopkeepers, their employees, the landlord of the building, the cleaners, the utility companies, and of course into the exchequer. Having money when you’re old doesn’t ward off the grim reaper. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclizine Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 hour ago, red23 said: Chose to stay at home extra year to save up deposit unlike mates. When i moved in to my first flat i was on 18k a year and lived quite comfortably despite a £650 mortgage so i'm not sure what people are doing. Flat was bought for 90k. So you were talking bollocks and as predicted you were living and supported by your parents. It's easy to save money when you don't have to spend it on essentials. People living hand-to-mouth genuinely can't afford even basics and certainly can't put anything aside for savings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red23 Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Cyclizine said: So you were talking bollocks and as predicted you were living and supported by your parents. It's easy to save money when you don't have to spend it on essentials. People living hand-to-mouth genuinely can't afford even basics and certainly can't put anything aside for savings. When did i say i wasn't staying at home to save the deposit? i made that sacrifice rather than having my own place, it wasn't a pleasant choice believe me but it was to make the best use of my cash which others classmates/friends did't do. Edited May 20, 2021 by red23 -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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