Mallo_Madrid Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 (edited) How long as the speed limit been 70mph on a motorway specifically? I could be wrong but i'd imagine 70mph is a bit dated given the advancements to the saftey of cars in this day and age. On the other side of the coin I think 20mph is more than adequate in built up town and city areas. **edit to add - 70mph was introduced in 1965 Edited July 19, 2018 by Mallo_Madrid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Mallo_Madrid said: How long as the speed limit been 70mph on a motorway specifically? I could be wrong but i'd imagine 70mph is a bit dated given the advancements to the saftey of cars in this day and age. On the other side of the coin I think 20mph is more than adequate in built up town and city areas. I talked to a traffic cop who said they wouldn't do anyone at 79mph if they were driving safely, but anyone at 80mph they would. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Mallo_Madrid said: How long as the speed limit been 70mph on a motorway specifically? I could be wrong but i'd imagine 70mph is a bit dated given the advancements to the saftey of cars in this day and age. On the other side of the coin I think 20mph is more than adequate in built up town and city areas. Since 1965. Cars might have gotten safer, drivers have not. Surely an increase of 10mph would just push everyone up 10mph - the guys now driving at 80mph wouldn't stick to 80mph, they'd likely follows the 10% plus thinking 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, The Moonster said: And what happens when a shit driver who doesn't realise they're a shit driver speeds? I appreciate you guys all think you are competent and good drivers, but I imagine just about everyone who speeds thinks that too. Also, a quick google search proves your last line completely wrong, from WHO: "An increase in average speed of 1 km/h typically results in a 3% higher risk of a crash involving injury, with a 4–5% increase for crashes that result in fatalities" Of course it's more dangerous, less time to react to the unexpected and more difficult to control in an emergency. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallo_Madrid Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Just now, hk blues said: Since 1965. Cars might have gotten safer, drivers have not. Surely an increase of 10mph would just push everyone up 10mph - the guys now driving at 80mph wouldn't stick to 80mph, they'd likely follows the 10% plus thinking I'm no expert, but a ford Cortina going 70mph on a motorway in 1965 would definately have been far more dangerous than a modern day car going at 80mph. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Quite like seeing people speeding tbh, usually means I can get to my destination a bit quicker. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Jagsfan Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, Mallo_Madrid said: I'm no expert, but a ford Cortina going 70mph on a motorway in 1965 would definately have been far more dangerous than a modern day car going at 80mph. But in 1965 the motorways were mostly empty, now they are a lot busier and have multiple lanes, rather than just 2 or 3. More trucks doing 59.9 mph. Express buses. Overall, driving on a motorway is more dangerous today than it was 50 years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, Mallo_Madrid said: I'm no expert, but a ford Cortina going 70mph on a motorway in 1965 would definately have been far more dangerous than a modern day car going at 80mph. It's rarely the car that causes an accident - usually the driver. The impact of the accident might be diminished nowadays, but I'm not convinced the number of accidents is less 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 46 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Being a shit driver is more dangerous than speeding though. If you can drive at 80 and be competent then you shouldn’t ever really crash unless someone else fucks up. Isn't that the point? You could be the instructor who taught the Stig everything he knows but it you're tooling along at 80 and the guy in front of you does something unexpected you have less time to react and avoid hitting him than if you were within the limit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Why use the horn? What does that achieve? Usually when I'm forced to undertake a lane hogger i like to get their attention and make sure they know what an arsehole they are. I didn't think doing it infront of the police was the best way to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Cuddy Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Gaz FFC said: Usually when I'm forced to undertake a lane hogger i like to get their attention and make sure they know what an arsehole they are. I didn't think doing it infront of the police was the best way to go. I just greenied your "f**k the police" post. I feel cheated now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 2 hours ago, The Moonster said: There are track days and things you can go to if you want to drive fast, endangering yourself and others on public roads isn't something I'd recommend. I don't endanger myself or others though. That's my point I suppose. Just because you think something is dangerous, it might not be. Or I might not think it is dangerous. We all perceive hazards differently. We all drive differently. Our cars have different capabilities. Some of can use that capability, some can't. No nuns or kittens die the minute I stray +1mph over the posted limit. 2 hours ago, The Moonster said: I'm sure most speeders who end up wrapped around a tree thought that conditions and traffic were fine for them to be speeding too. Well they're not very good at it then are they? Some people are though. There's a time and a place for it, it's as simple as that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 FWIW I think the nsl on a single carriageway will be 50mph in 10 years time Bloody 50 limits popping up everywhere, mostly for no reason at all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Trackdaybob said: I don't endanger myself or others though. That's my point I suppose. Just because you think something is dangerous, it might not be. Or I might not think it is dangerous. We all perceive hazards differently. We all drive differently. Our cars have different capabilities. Some of can use that capability, some can't. No nuns or kittens die the minute I stray +1mph over the posted limit. Well they're not very good at it then are they? Some people are though. There's a time and a place for it, it's as simple as that. What a stupid argument. The World Health Organisation (not the only organisation but an example in this case) deem driving at higher speeds dangerous, hence governments put law in place which limits those dangers. It's not just me sitting here deeming something dangerous, the stats are there to prove it (see my earlier speeding line). The fact that you've never crashed doesn't mean that it's fine for anyone who feels competent enough (much like you do) to drive at whatever speed they like. Everyone passes a competency test for driving and then they're given a license to drive under the current laws in place. We can't have whataboutery determining whether it's fine to drive at 90mph on a motorway. (Of course nothing dies every time you go 1mph over the limit - nobody has suggested that). 5 minutes ago, Trackdaybob said: FWIW I think the nsl on a single carriageway will be 50mph in 10 years time Bloody 50 limits popping up everywhere, mostly for no reason at all No, if roads are dropped to 50 limits it's to stop the folk who think they're Michael Schumacher from killing themselves or others on roads which have seen a lot of accidents. They don't just pick random speed limits for every road, you know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ2 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 This thread is becoming PTTGOMN. Do away with speed limits and let it be survival of fittest/fastest Edit to fix stupid typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, NJ2 said: This thread is becoming PTTGOMN. Do away with speed limits and let it be survival of fittest/fastest Edit to fix stupid typo The problem is that if you drove at 90mph and hit a bridge support nobody would shed a tear. If you hit a minibus full of handicapped kids then they suffer even though they weren't at fault. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unleash The Nade Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, GordonD said: The problem is that if you drove at 90mph and hit a bridge support nobody would shed a tear. If you hit a minibus full of handicapped kids then they suffer even though they weren't at fault. So if it was non handicapped kids , that’s ok then ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trackdaybob Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, The Moonster said: The World Health Organisation stats and shit I'm out 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Unleash The Nade said: So if it was non handicapped kids , that’s ok then ? Bigger headlines with the handicapped kids 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, GordonD said: The problem is that if you drove at 90mph and hit a bridge support nobody would shed a tear. If you hit a minibus full of handicapped kids then they suffer even though they weren't at fault. At least they're used to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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