Lokloyal Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 https://www.pollokfc.com/2023/05/27/club-statement-on-proposed-conference-league/ 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Respect to Pollok. What about the other 79 clubs in the Wosfl? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, Lokloyal said: https://www.pollokfc.com/2023/05/27/club-statement-on-proposed-conference-league/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) Here it is. Absolutely tears apart the concept and those behind it without sounding at all vindictive. Brilliant: Club Statement on proposed “Conference League” May 27, 2023 Having now received full details of the SFA’s plans for a new “Conference League” at Tier 5 of the Scottish football pyramid, Pollok FC wish to make it clear that we are totally opposed to this proposal. Whilst we accept the intent to improve the development pathway for footballers is sincere, this proposal is not the solution. We believe that this proposal would be to the detriment of the vast majority of the remaining 200+ clubs in the football pyramid and at the same time is highly unlikely to achieve its stated aims. The main purpose of a football pyramid system is to allow its member clubs, through promotions and relegations, to progress towards a level at which they are competing more or less equitably, and this proposal completely undermines the integrity of that structure. In recent years a significant number of non-SPFL clubs, including Pollok FC, have shown their commitment to the pyramid philosophy by pursuing and acquiring a SFA club licence. To do so they have developed and improved the facilities at their grounds, trained staff and implemented policies required to show that they are ready. This has taken a huge amount of work, mostly by unpaid volunteers, and has also cost considerable sums of money. To then have another League hurdle imposed is needlessly insensitive to those efforts. We are more than ready, should we earn promotion, to move up from our current Tier 6 to compete at Tier 5 for another promotion to Tier 4 and League 2 of the SPFL, continuing to develop and improve our infrastructure as necessary along the way. The proposal would place four Lowland League and two Highland League teams in the new Conference League, the criteria for this selection has not been specified, alongside four B teams. This is not an attractive proposition for the six “competing” teams who would receive £40,000 compensation for having to play almost half of their matches against ‘B’ teams of youngsters along with increased travel and fewer competitive rivalries. Also, depending on what positions the ‘B’ teams who cannot be promoted or relegated finish in at the end of the season, a non-B team in 5th place could find themselves in either a promotion or a relegation play-off. It is entirely possible that after a couple of seasons were the two Highland League teams to be relegated, this Conference League would look like the present Lowland League but with fewer teams. Recently Aberdeen FC have said that they are not going to put a B team into this League and Rangers manager Michael Beale has said, “I don’t think the Lowland League is a good bridge, so we need to look at other games,” and yet the Conference League would look just like the Lowland League but smaller. Unless there is a hidden agenda, which may not be that well-hidden when the office bearers for the company behind this new League are taken into consideration, then on the face of it this proposal is without merit. It is overtly the only option that does not require a vote that would be against the self-interests of the majority of SFA member clubs eligible to vote at the AGM on the 6th June. Because it is the only option is not good enough reason for it to become a reality. Pollok FC is wholly opposed to the formation of this Conference League and although, as a recently licensed SFA member, we are not ourselves able to vote at the SFA AGM, we would urge as many other voting clubs as possible to reject the proposal. Edited May 27, 2023 by Dev . 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Bang on from Pollok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Pollok's Club Statement needs to be copied onto ALL relevant threads here on P&B i.e. those which cover voting associate FAs, all leagues which have even one club that is eligible to vote, all clubs etc . Some are already done but if one person does them it will be called as Spamming. Volunteers, anyone?: ALL SPFL Divisions Highland League Lowland League EoS SoS WoS - already sorted North Caledonian SFA Juniors SAFA Amateurs SFA Womens North Caledonian Any others that can vote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Are there actually any scab clubs at T6 or below on this issue? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Shanner said: Are there actually any scab clubs at T6 or below on this issue? Wouldn't be surprised if some fancy their chances at getting one of the spaces that it will open up in the Lowland League. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 37 minutes ago, Shanner said: Are there actually any scab clubs at T6 or below on this issue? Every vote counts. It's more about putting the info in front of others who have votes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Shanner said: Are there actually any scab clubs at T6 or below on this issue? You seriously think there's not clubs who would jump at the chance of leapfrogging out the Wosfl and the LL? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Thing about clubs at our level putting out statements etc, unless its Bonnyton, Glasgow Uni or Girvan then it really doesnt matter, we dont have a say, but organisations like the womens football association and the amateur association do… go figure. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejackdaw Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Thing about clubs at our level putting out statements etc, unless its Bonnyton, Glasgow Uni or Girvan then it really doesnt matter, we dont have a say, but organisations like the womens football association and the amateur association do… go figure. Totally agree and the games fecked .nonsense it really is . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Shanner said: Are there actually any scab clubs at T6 or below on this issue? Think there's only 16 clubs from tier 6 this season with a vote (that were members before the 2019 AGM), and I don't see why any of them with would be voting for it. WOS - Girvan, Glasgow Uni, Threave, SOS - Newton Stewart, St Cuthbert W, Wigtown & B, NCL - FW and Golspie, EOS - Burntisland, Coldstream, Hawick, Linlithgow, LTHV, Preston, VOL, WW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Well done Pollok. Nailed it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sox Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 52 minutes ago, Father Ted said: Well done Pollok. Nailed it. Do they have a vote? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Does it matter if we have a vote? Suppose people can't object to anything then unless they have a direct say in it. Solid logic and a blow for political activism across the world. We're one of several clubs in line to be shafted by this so we've come out and explained how it will shaft us. Let clubs and supporters know that this will have a real impact on real clubs. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, Johnny Sox said: Do they have a vote? No, but everybody's input moves momentum in the right direction, to fire this dross in the bin where it belongs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Sox Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 57 minutes ago, paul-r-cfc said: Does it matter if we have a vote? Suppose people can't object to anything then unless they have a direct say in it. Solid logic and a blow for political activism across the world. We're one of several clubs in line to be shafted by this so we've come out and explained how it will shaft us. Let clubs and supporters know that this will have a real impact on real clubs. I agree with the statement, it was actually a question 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-r-cfc Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, Johnny Sox said: I agree with the statement, it was actually a question Apologies. My reply wasn't aimed at you. We do not have a vote as we are so new to SFA membership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapowzer Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 8 hours ago, Dev said: Pollok's Club Statement needs to be copied onto ALL relevant threads here on P&B i.e. those which cover voting associate FAs, all leagues which have even one club that is eligible to vote, all clubs etc . Some are already done but if one person does them it will be called as Spamming. Volunteers, anyone?: ALL SPFL Divisions Highland League Lowland League EoS SoS WoS - already sorted North Caledonian SFA Juniors SAFA Amateurs SFA Womens North Caledonian Any others that can vote. Stuck it in the Top Tier board. If it's a consolation, my own club as fan owned carried out a survey of the support and invited feedback. From the comments on our thread and in our own dedicated club forum it got a universal thumbs down. Now going by that you'd expect our representative to follow the will of the "owners". You'd also hope that St Mirren would too being in a similar position. Hearts fans may have divided loyalties as the have committed a Colt team but safe to say most see this for what it is, an OF Trojan Horse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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