GNU_Linux Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Cove Rangers FC can today confirm that the club will vote against the proposed introduction of the Scottish Conference League At the Scottish FA AGM on Tuesday June 6, member clubs will be requested to vote on a new fifth-tier division, which will consist of B Teams and representatives of the existing Highland League and Lowland League. Our Board has discussed the plans ahead of next week’s vote and is of the view that the introduction of B Teams and the Conference League, will not be beneficial to player development. As a club, we see the player development closely linked to earlier pathways into their first-team and through the successful use of the current loan system. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: It's the changes that are needed to the Club 42 playoff rules that mean they can't slide the Conference League in unilaterally. Correct needs HL and LL agreement but easier to press to get that if the club membership of the SFA has voted in favour 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Cowden Cowboy said: As far as I can see online Article 60 is about Director disqualication whilst 62 is powers of directors. It states in essence the board can exercise all powers and carry out the objects of the SFA which are not by the articles or by statute expressly required to be done in a general meeting. Thus is there somewhere in articles something that states a new League can only be created by members vote at GM? Sorry you are correct. 62. 62.1 gives the board the power to carry out the functions of the association but they would still need direction or ratification. That's before we even begin to look at the requiring agreement form the LL, HFl and SPFL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said: Sorry you are correct. 62. 62.1 gives the board the power to carry out the functions of the association but they would still need direction or ratification. That's before we even begin to look at the requiring agreement form the LL, HFl and SPFL Where does it say that the board in exercising its agreed powers needs direction and ratification? Not really a real board if it needs to ask can it do something which it is empowered to do and then subsequently has to get it rubber stamped by the members. The board actually are decision makers. Members may not like their decisions but either have to accept them or subsequently seek to gain agreement to reverse said decision which may require seeking to vote out board members 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I think I could get my head round the legalities and powers under AoA If I really wanted to. I'd put my last pound on Maxwell couldn't do it if his life depended on it. I doubt he's ever read any of the rules. Anyway I don't need to know the rules because the conference is a bad idea in football terms. Maxwell is utterly out of his depth. He can sound very convincing, so much so that he probably genuinely believes the stuff he comes out with himself. Yet when it gets to the formalities of actually getting it sorted, he has no clue what the procedures are. This was also shown in the "done deal" of the juniors entering the pyramid for example. This shambles really should mean he gets shown the door... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullyweehutch Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 https://twitter.com/ClydeFC/status/1665388352252567561?t=uKryMNyFBmwdrgjazWUZ6g&s=19 Clyde also voting against this shambles being pushed by the arse cheeks 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 18 minutes ago, bullyweehutch said: https://twitter.com/ClydeFC/status/1665388352252567561?t=uKryMNyFBmwdrgjazWUZ6g&s=19 Clyde also voting against this shambles being pushed by the arse cheeks The previous statement by the club clearly wanted to push this plan didn't exactly work then. Well done on the fans turning this down with an 88% vote. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullyweehutch Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 19 minutes ago, Marten said: The previous statement by the club clearly wanted to push this plan didn't exactly work then. Well done on the fans turning this down with an 88% vote. Yeh, fans were never voting for it and tbh majority would love for the board to piss off along with this proposal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 FC Edinburgh statement 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Excellent stuff from Clyde, now from Hearts that would properly kill it off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundesliga Boy Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Excellent stuff from Clyde, now from Hearts that would properly kill it off. Curious.....why would Hearts vote against it when they are one of the three clubs that's actually proposing it??? (much to my despair!). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnishambles Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) ^^^that was already known. The No to B teams tracker is looking quite promising: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZaaVK-gDcjeZX88quxBfxlBL64AGDpViEqwbHTAUvrw/edit#gid=0 but not a lot has been heard from the smaller traditional EoS, SoS and NCL clubs that were full members pre-2018. Hopefully the smaller full member clubs that basically have zero chance of ever getting anywhere near tier 5 will not be swayed by the SFA board on this issue. Edit: there are SoS clubs declared as being in the NO camp now I look again. Edited June 4, 2023 by LongTimeLurker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Bundesliga Boy said: Curious.....why would Hearts vote against it when they are one of the three clubs that's actually proposing it??? (much to my despair!). Aberdeen were supposed be on message but publicly rejected the deal along with its rational for developing young footballers. Maybe Hearts think their lads will get some useful experience in the EOSFL the season after next? Edited June 4, 2023 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bundesliga Boy Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Aberdeen were supposed be on message but publicly rejected the deal along with its rational for developing young footballers. Maybe Hearts think their lads will get some useful experience in the EOSFL the season after next? Supposed to be according to whom exactly? Was all hearsay - nothing official from the club. They were merely invited to be the fourth club. Hearts on the other hand have a B team in the pyramid and are one of the three clubs, again, actually proposing the Conference - that's a pretty big difference right there! Either way, I'm more confident than ever now that this absolute monstrosity will be voted down within the next 48 hours or so. (personally I'd then kick all 3 out the LL immediately after this farce but that's perhaps my pettiness coming through). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanley Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 14 minutes ago, Bundesliga Boy said: Supposed to be according to whom exactly? Was all hearsay - nothing official from the club. They were merely invited to be the fourth club. Hearts on the other hand have a B team in the pyramid and are one of the three clubs, again, actually proposing the Conference - that's a pretty big difference right there! Either way, I'm more confident than ever now that this absolute monstrosity will be voted down within the next 48 hours or so. (personally I'd then kick all 3 out the LL immediately after this farce but that's perhaps my pettiness coming through). Are Hearts actually "proposing" it or just part of the new league if it is approved? I'm 100% against the idea and against B teams in the Lowland League but not sure what our involvement in this is other than being one of the teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 minute ago, stanley said: Are Hearts actually "proposing" it or just part of the new league if it is approved? I'm 100% against the idea and against B teams in the Lowland League but not sure what our involvement in this is other than being one of the teams. You don’t accidentally become ‘one of the teams’. By agreeing to be so you accept the negative consequences and stump up a fee for nothing more than your self-interest, a poorly analysed self-interest at that. Formally I don’t see who has proposed this, but my suspicion is the SFA board/Maxwell with the 3/4 scumbag clubs not officially announced, but it would have never have come up without certain shitty clubs wanting it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfirst Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 24 minutes ago, Bundesliga Boy said: Supposed to be according to whom exactly? Was all hearsay - nothing official from the club. They were merely invited to be the fourth club. https://www.afc.co.uk/2023/05/15/aberdeen-reject-conference-league-invitation/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparticus Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 35 minutes ago, stanley said: Are Hearts actually "proposing" it or just part of the new league if it is approved? I'm 100% against the idea and against B teams in the Lowland League but not sure what our involvement in this is other than being one of the teams. Your not sure what your involvement is apart from being one of the teams? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 4 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: It's the changes that are needed to the Club 42 playoff rules that mean they can't slide the Conference League in unilaterally. That was the thing the Cowdenbeath fans always ignored. "We had to vote for the B Teams this year cos the SFA would just set up a league for this season". They could in theory set up any league they like but without a mechanism for promotion and relegation into and from the SPFL, SHFL and SLFL there would be no point. Quite why they thought the SFA would be able to railroad the 3 leagues into accepting that is anyone's guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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