ekok Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Just keep them coming, nothing to do with dothing caps, a typical misrepresentation of a word used to suggest trying to find some common ground to agree on. As opposed to being called scum and much worse. If you really think this sort of language and approach is helpful fire away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Wafer Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 On 06/05/2023 at 21:43, newcastle broon said: Sharing their astro wi Hearts B throws their cards on the table straight away. Spartans? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 You DOFF your cap, not doth it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: You DOFF your cap, not doth it. You doth doff your cap. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, itzdrk said: You doth doff your cap. Correct. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, ekok said: Thanks responses absolutely make my case. Just keep up with the wisecracks, every single one is counterproductive. If you're in any way involved with the LL, all you are doing is underlining the long held view that many within the LL think it's still their toy and theirs alone to play with. Be nice now and dance to our tune otherwise you're not getting in. The only common ground to be agreed on, is that the LL talk a lot about ventilation but never do anything about creating it, you know, relegate/promote more clubs. Please don't say, but but but SPFL........ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrison Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 10 hours ago, ekok said: At least automatic promotion to LL exists, co congrats by the way. Also depending on circumstances, can be two relegations, tho that would be to make place for a relegated Team 42. On the other hand Spartans are still two games away from promotion, having won their League and played Brechin twice, so maybe some grounds for complaint there. Also that nonsense has been kicked up the road for about 7/8 years with vague promises to " review the situation, which continues today, so maybe some more grounds there. Despite all of that sensing a mood change on this within LL so maybe a more conciliatory tone from Tiers below might help move things forward Let's hope that this 'mood change' results in two automatic relegation spots from the LL as soon as possible. The circumstances that depends upon should be the presence of at least two licensed champions at tier 6, rather than a permutation involving the top end of the LL. We all know self interest was what got the relegation vote rejected at the AGM last year. Let's not pretend that's the fault of the EOSFL, WOSFL or SOSFL. The LL clubs have looked at all the sides falling straight through the EOSFL Premier and out the other side, and bricked it. The Club 42 scenario needs to change too, unquestionably, but that's strawman stuff. That's got nothing to do with tier 6, and you can't make sorting it conditional on getting something else they're not in a position to give. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramid Watcher Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, Burnieman said: If you're in any way involved with the LL, all you are doing is underlining the long held view that many within the LL think it's still their toy and theirs alone to play with. Be nice now and dance to our tune otherwise you're not getting in. The only common ground to be agreed on, is that the LL talk a lot about ventilation but never do anything about creating it, you know, relegate/promote more clubs. Please don't say, but but but SPFL........ Thomas Brown stated on his recent podcast appearance that it was back on the table, and would be discussed over the course of next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 While we're on the subject, I was reading Blind Harry's Wallace recently, and discovered that our hero WW first took invader's blood as a result of a snooty wee twerp wanting some fish Wullie had caught. WW addressed the young guy as 'thou' which is how you addressed younger or socially inferior people. To address one's superior, one would use "thee". [Kind of like German Du or Sie, and Gaelic thu or sibh] The young groom roared "Whom thou'st thou, Scot!?" and charged at WW, which ended very badly for him. Even his knight/master just laughed at him. [Equivalent today would be "Who are you calling pal, PAL?"] There is a sculpture of Blin' Hary with the famous phrase (in old Scots) engraved on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said: Thomas Brown stated on his recent podcast appearance that it was back on the table, and would be discussed over the course of next season. It's been on the table since the exodus from the ERJFA began, and every time it was taken back off...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekok Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 The whole question of promotion and relegation for any single league is based on the situation at both top and bottom. To deny that is unrealistic.Three up , three down would be ideal. The clue is in the word and. The logjam into SPFL has clearly influenced the discussion over the years within Ll. As any similar arrangement would at any level. Can we please have a respectful, adult, conversation on how to move forward. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 8 minutes ago, ekok said: Can we please have a respectful, adult, conversation on how to move forward. You can f**k right off with that kind of talk. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 27 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said: Thomas Brown stated on his recent podcast appearance that it was back on the table, and would be discussed over the course of next season. He always says that he personally is in favour of it, but the clubs aren't, but he doesn't throw threats around right left and centre about it, like he does about inviting B-teams in. If he shook my hand I'd be counting my fingers after. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 16 minutes ago, ekok said: The whole question of promotion and relegation for any single league is based on the situation at both top and bottom. To deny that is unrealistic.Three up , three down would be ideal. The clue is in the word and. The logjam into SPFL has clearly influenced the discussion over the years within Ll. As any similar arrangement would at any level. Can we please have a respectful, adult, conversation on how to move forward. Sorry, respectful? OK, with respect the LL complaining about the SPFL/Tier 5 situation has bugger all to do with the tier 6 leagues. The LL are utter hypocrites to continually refuse to increase promotion/relegation from tier 6, whilst complaining about the SPFL. It's as if they use tier 6 as pawns in their fight with the SPFL. Set the example. I've lost count of the number of times this point has been made by all and sundry. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 17 minutes ago, ekok said: The whole question of promotion and relegation for any single league is based on the situation at both top and bottom. To deny that is unrealistic.Three up , three down would be ideal. The clue is in the word and. The logjam into SPFL has clearly influenced the discussion over the years within Ll. As any similar arrangement would at any level. For better or worse the Lowland has always been an extension of the South & East. Shared committee members, development league and cup competitions. While the the West, east, and south seek equality with each other. The Lowland sees itself as superior and just takes. You can't compare the situation with the SPFL as there are not the same shared links. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekok Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 Ok if adult and respectful doesn't do it, out of here. -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 9 minutes ago, ekok said: Ok if adult and respectful doesn't do it, out of here. People are debating with you and raising very valid issues, you're choosing not to engage and instead moaning about adult debate and running away. A metaphor for the LL. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramid Watcher Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 49 minutes ago, Burnieman said: It's been on the table since the exodus from the ERJFA began, and every time it was taken back off...... I believe his comments were based on a previous agreement whereby the LL clubs wouldn’t look at it again (after the last vote) until things were opened up above them, the potential conference facilitates that. This is all based on his comment and appearance on the podcast. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 7, 2023 Share Posted May 7, 2023 1 hour ago, ekok said: The whole question of promotion and relegation for any single league is based on the situation at both top and bottom. To deny that is unrealistic.Three up , three down would be ideal. The clue is in the word and. The logjam into SPFL has clearly influenced the discussion over the years within Ll. As any similar arrangement would at any level. Can we please have a respectful, adult, conversation on how to move forward. How come the East of Scotland and West of Scotland Premier leagues both manage to relegate 3 clubs despite having the same log jam at the top of their league? 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 9 hours ago, ekok said: Thanks responses absolutely make my case. Just keep up with the wisecracks, every single one is counterproductive. No wonder the Glasgow folks call it EK Dodgy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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