MazzyStar Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Florentine_Pogen said: And I'm sure that we're all grateful for your erudite insight. Couldn’t care less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, Fullerene said: I would probably agree with Corbyn on a lot of things - for example, I would question whether NATO is a good thing or bad thing. As it is, Putin has answered that question for everyone much to his own disadvantage. However Corbyn was absolute anathema to a lot of people who did not share his point of view (rationally so or otherwise). Yes he lost an election in 2015 with MORE votes than Tony Blair got to win one but that indicates there were a lot of people who went out to vote to ensure he was not prime minister. Consequently his leadership meant Labour had no chance of winning and simply enabled the Conservatives to do whatever they liked. His leadership may have been popular with the membership but if it had no chance of winning then that meant nothing. I don't have a problem with any commentator willing to point that out. Lineker just made that single "Bin Corbyn" tweet which we can't tell his motives from so there's nothing really to say there. O'Brien did go into detail on his reasons but as I didn't listen to him regularly at the time, I'm going on selected quotes of his that I've read. Therefore, I might not have properly grasped his full set of beliefs. Anyway, from what I read he wasn't against Corbyn for the strategic reason you've given there. He was against Corbyn's politics and he also thought Corbyn was an antisemite. To then not vote for Labour, to vote Lib Dem or whatever (I'm more meaning in England and Wales here due to the different dynamics in Scotland and N.I.), that meant that voter was ultimately more comfortable with a Tory than Labour government. This isn't really about James O'Brien specifically, though. It's about why so many liberal left/centre left folk refused to vote for the further left Corbyn. It's certainly something that happened, as you point out, and its an interesting discussion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, Lancashirearab said: But the state broadcaster and the other national media inform and influence the electorate. There is some debate about the authenticity of this quote, but it shows why the Tories are so keen to exercise control over the media. Sure, even our state broadcaster will always be presided over by the elite or elite-adjacent. Folk with connections, Oxbridge graduates, etc. So it may well be a losing battle to that extent. There is that a state broadcaster is more susceptible to public pressure, at least, while private media only fears the wrath of its shareholders. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 hours ago, throbber said: Monkey tennis spotted today How does that work, even as a lame joke? Can you not read properly? I'm unequivocally on Lineker's side here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 First time I have seen this BBC director general. He looks and sounds like a wrong un. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Couldn't even be arsed slapping the intro on. Sad thing about this is that they're delivering a much more enjoyable product at a fraction of the cost tonight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, Have some faith in Magic said: First time I have seen this BBC director general. He looks and sounds like a wrong un. He's aged a fair bit since I last saw him. He took a fair pay cut to be DG. He was in charge of the BBC's commercial arm (BBC Studios) before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Football is much more enjoyable when it doesn't have an egomaniac shrieking over the top of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ludo*1 said: Couldn't even be arsed slapping the intro on. Sad thing about this is that they're delivering a much more enjoyable product at a fraction of the cost tonight. Tbh, I thought I’d like it more without commentators, especially since I hate most of them, but actually I don’t. It’s like when we had Covid football, just sounds wrong. Edited March 11, 2023 by Jambomo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jambomo said: Tbh, I thought I’d like it more without commentators, especially since I hate most of them, but actually I don’t. It’s like when we had Covid football, just sounds wrong. I don't mind the commentators but if it's an option between the two, I'm picking this 20 minute highlight reel all day. I tend to watch Sky Sports' highlights on YouTube rather than MotD and they often don't have commentary so doesn't really bother me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRR Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 C'mon, fair play to him for supporting Lineker, but any football programme is enhanced by not having Ian 'He Cannae Beat the Caley' Wright talking rubbish in the guise of punditry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Without any voice over I looked away and thought Bamford had scored for Spurs ago against Nottingham and got really confused. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I'm struggling to see the negatives of getting to watch the same-day Wright-less highlights to it's conclusion and still getting to bed before the other half falls asleep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Best MOTD ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 That was excellent. Keep it like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Sportscene just got interrupted by a plane crash. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 The no commentary was good but it was too quick-fire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Capital Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 No boycott from Paul Mitchell. What a surprise... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 The negatives here are that the right wing scum have won. There isn't an option where the boring punditry is removed but the BBC isn't more of a fascist mouthpiece. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Have some faith in Magic said: Sportscene just got interrupted by a plane crash. Even Tom Hanks has had enough of the Old Firm’s dominance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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