Hampden Diehard Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 37 minutes ago, Dundee-FC92 said: Away you go. Arbroath looked like a junior team on Friday night. Maybe a bit more Auchinleck Talbot than Forfar West End though. They sneaked a draw in that game and we've toiled against Cove and ICT in the last two games. Nothing being taken for granted. It's just incredible to be in such a position. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clashcityrocker Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 46 minutes ago, Dundee-FC92 said: Arbroath looked like a junior team Is that the same Arbroath which pumped Dundee 4-2 at Dens recently ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 It’s all well and good to argue about winning two and the gap is one…but that leaves six games for Dundee to get two more points than Queen’s Park get from six games. Best case, assuming Dundee absolutely smash someone Raith style and then manage to go plus two over QP, it’s one point over six games plus better GD that’s required. In either case, while not a monumental collapse, it would be a significant rectal prolapse. Here’s the whole thing, looking at the form sheet in the last five, that looks unlikely. QP are the only Championship team with 3 wins in the last five, otherwise it’s Ayr, Partick, Raith and the Accies with two wins in five. If you really want to dig in, the last games are: Queen’s Park: 9, 6, 4, 10, 3, 5, 2 = 39/7 = 5.6 Dundee: 3, 10, 9, 6, 5, 7, 8, 1 = 49/8 = 6.1 Ayr: 2, 8, 3, 5, 4, 1, 6, 7 = 36/8 = 4.5 Partick: 7, 8, 4, 3, 10, 9, 6 = 47/7 = 6.7 Morton: 7, 3, 10, 2, 6, 1, 8 = 37/7 = 5.3 So the easiest run-in is Partick, then Dundee, Queen’s Park, Morton and Ayr. If you play the “that’s not fair because Queen’s are in first and Dundee in second, so it makes it look worse”, it’s 6.2 vs 6.9…a slight change favoring Dundee, if you exclude the H-t-H between them. Judging by those numbers…with a 7 point lead, it’s most likely Queen’s win it, Dundee and Partick duke it out for second and Aye and Morton compete for the right to play too many games. The Championship playoff setup is a complete giveaway…make it the same as the others. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pens_Dark Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Dundee beating QP twice and drawing once is our season in a nutshell. The level of consistency QP have shown out with that fixture and over the course of the season will see them promoted. Dundee have been disgracefully average in a season where the league was meant to be at it's 'weakest'. We may well win our game in hand tomorrow and QP will drop points between now and the end of the season. My spineless team will not capitalise on those dropped points. When QP do go up - absolute fair fucks. What a story and what a journey for the fans. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qpfc Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Pens_Dark said: Dundee beating QP twice and drawing once is our season in a nutshell. The level of consistency QP have shown out with that fixture and over the course of the season will see them promoted. Dundee have been disgracefully average in a season where the league was meant to be at it's 'weakest'. We may well win our game in hand tomorrow and QP will drop points between now and the end of the season. My spineless team will not capitalise on those dropped points. When QP do go up - absolute fair fucks. What a story and what a journey for the fans. Yup, we’ve only lost 1 game against the bottom half of the table all season. That’s what’s put us in such a great position. From what I’ve seen of Dundee against us this season, it shocks me the amount of points youse have dropped tbh. Thought after the 3-0 game at dens in January, Dundee would of went on and took full claim of the title. Edited March 20, 2023 by qpfc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee-FC92 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 21 minutes ago, clashcityrocker said: Is that the same Arbroath which pumped Dundee 4-2 at Dens recently ? You scored from four set pieces against 10 men. Even with ten men we brought it from 0 - 2 to 2 - 2. If you want to look at the scoreline and call it a pumping then go for it. If you want facts then you'll be pumed at Ochilview this Friday and subsequetly hit free-fall into the seaside leagues where you belong. The glittering heights of last year can be something you cling on to for the foreseeable but that will soon be swept away by the North sea gale as you stand shivering watching your pub team against Airdrieonians. Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clashcityrocker Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, Dundee-FC92 said: You scored from four set pieces against 10 men So, Dundee can't defend against set pieces ? Whats new ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Psychosis Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Sure its been said before but Thistle's absolutely abject October/November---where we lost to Queens-Ayr-Raith-Dundee-Morton on the bounce---really has fucked it for us. Even two wins out of those five games would have made a huge difference to the table 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Uncle Psychosis said: Sure its been said before but Thistle's absolutely abject October/November---where we lost to Queens-Ayr-Raith-Dundee-Morton on the bounce---really has fucked it for us. Even two wins out of those five games would have made a huge difference to the table Or alternatively taking even 4 points rather than 0 from two home games against then 9th and 10th in the league at end January/begin February would have made a huge difference. We'd still be in a title race with those points. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Also it's nearly time to sound the @Fuctifano alarm for his, quite frankly brilliant, simulations for the finishing positions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Psychosis Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 39 minutes ago, jaggyness said: Or alternatively taking even 4 points rather than 0 from two home games against then 9th and 10th in the league at end January/begin February would have made a huge difference. We'd still be in a title race with those points. Oh, aye. Dropped points are dropped points, and every team will, erm, point at games that they should have got more from. That run in October is particularly painful given the opponents, basically every game was a proverbial "six pointer" for those with title/playoff aspirations. TBH its a sign of how mad (poor) this division is, where a team can lose five games on the bounce against its competitors, then lose to the bottom two leams in the league, and still not be 100% out of it (yet). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 5 hours ago, qpfc said: Despite having Morton and Ayr away at the tail end of the season, there’s a chance that one or both may have nothing to play for by that point. The Morton game 2nd last day particularly may mean nothing to them if they’re out of the play off race. Are you.. expecting that Morten may lay down? Genuinely? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) We just aren't consistent enough not helped by a manager who is not setting up to attack teams. He seems happy with a draw when a win is needed. Big match tomorrow which will finish the title chances of one or both teams. Ultimately we're where we are because we lost to the 2 worst teams in the league. Failing to beat Morton in 3 matches hasn't helped either. Edited March 20, 2023 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Ton Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Failing to beat Morton in 3 matches hasn't helped either. Not so you got 2 pts from those games. QP got 1 pt from our 3 games and they had two at their spot. Just like us all teams are inconsistent it just that some make an art of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Just now, Paisley Ton said: Not so you got 2 pts from those games. QP got 1 pt from our 3 games and they had two at their spot. Just like us all teams are inconsistent it just that some make an art of it. Imrie has had Bowyer's number all season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Ton Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Imrie has had Bowyer's number all season. 0793 583 2199 Give him a call 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paisley Ton Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 7 hours ago, qpfc said: I can’t see a realistic scenario where the games mean nothing to Morton and Ayr by then but you never know I guess Nah, all points count as places mean money and the higher finish we put in will help the budget for next year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arachnophile Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Our next four games are against Arbroath, Raith, Partick & Hamilton. Our record against them this season is: P:12 W: 10 D:2 L:0 F: 33 A:9 We follow that with games against Morton, Ayr & Dundee. our record against them? P:9 W:1 D:2 L:6 F:11 A: 23 The next 4 games look crucial for us. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 18 hours ago, clashcityrocker said: Is that the same Arbroath which pumped Dundee 4-2 at Dens recently ? An amateur performance by Dundee though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 18 hours ago, TxRover said: It’s all well and good to argue about winning two and the gap is one…but that leaves six games for Dundee to get two more points than Queen’s Park get from six games. ^^^ No need for all the additional bumf - it's as simple as this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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