Paisley Ton Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 I feel we out the race to win the title, not sure we were ever in it. But Ayr weren't that good, so confident we can make the playoffs as 3rd or 4th placed. As many have said each team will have a bad night just don't have it against the potential champions. Having recently seen all four I would say PT and Queens are the best teams, fuxk knows how we took 7 pts from Queens PK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 The prizes really are first and second. Third is an outside chance of winning the playoff, only Livi spring to mind as being successful via that route? 4th place has never even won the 3rd/4th playoff round, so statistically an unlikely path to promotion. QP and the Dee would still be my pick at this stage. Arbroath managed to blow a lead last season, letting KFC win on the last day. There is the potential for a similar scenario with those two meeting on the final Friday of the regular season. I see it going: 1st Dundee 2nd QP 3rd Thistle 4th Morton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, jagfox said: The prizes really are first and second. Third is an outside chance of winning the playoff, only Livi spring to mind as being successful via that route? 4th place has never even won the 3rd/4th playoff round, so statistically an unlikely path to promotion. QP and the Dee would still be my pick at this stage. Arbroath managed to blow a lead last season, letting KFC win on the last day. There is the potential for a similar scenario with those two meeting on the final Friday of the regular season. I see it going: 1st Dundee 2nd QP 3rd Thistle 4th Morton. Did Livi not finish 2nd? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said: Did Livi not finish 2nd? Yes and Kilmarnock didn't win on the last day either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) There have been 8 seasons of the Premiership playoffs under current format. 2nd place team leads 3rd place team 5-3 in getting to finals, and the Premiership team leads the championship team 5-3 as well, with all 3 championship teams that won having finished second in the league. As said, 4th has never even won vs 3rd in all 8 seasons. Edited March 8, 2023 by Fuctifano 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 1 minute ago, Fuctifano said: There have been 8 seasons of the Premiership playoffs under current format. 2nd place team leads 3rd place team 5-3 in getting to finals, and the Premiership team leads the championship team 5-3 as well, with all 3 championship teams that won having finished second in the league. As said, 4th has never even won vs 3rd in all 8 seasons. The 4th v 3rd game could get scrapped quite easily. A pointless two games for 3rd place rather than a quick rest up after the end of the season seems like an easy call. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinburghhonestman Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, itzdrk said: The 4th v 3rd game could get scrapped quite easily. A pointless two games for 3rd place rather than a quick rest up after the end of the season seems like an easy call. Second bottom in the Premiership should play 4th in the Championship. The playoffs are too heavily weighted on survival of the top tier team. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 9 hours ago, AuAl said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjameos Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, edinburghhonestman said: Second bottom in the Premiership should play 4th in the Championship. The playoffs are too heavily weighted on survival of the top tier team. Never really taken notice of premiership playoffs before (as not been a potential issue before) and had assumed (wrongly) they were the same as the lower divisions. That said I think any of the championship top 4 (provided they turn up) will beat whichever top tier team is involved. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 22 minutes ago, edinburghhonestman said: Second bottom in the Premiership should play 4th in the Championship. The playoffs are too heavily weighted on survival of the top tier team. Is the Premiership not usually still ongoing when the 3rd v 4th games happen? I’m sure it was still ongoing when Caley and Arbroath played too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, Derry Alli said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Is the Premiership not usually still ongoing when the 3rd v 4th games happen? I’m sure it was still ongoing when Caley and Arbroath played too. Correct. I think with the way the set up is, it means that the team finishing second bottom plays the same number of games as the other teams in the playoffs in terms of the league + playoffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Pie Of The Month said: Yes and Kilmarnock didn't win on the last day either. Yeah, I forgot there were a final round of games after KFC played Arbroath in the penultimate round of fixtures. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Broken Algorithms said: Correct. I think with the way the set up is, it means that the team finishing second bottom plays the same number of games as the other teams in the playoffs in terms of the league + playoffs. I think 3rd and 4th play an extra round of games, if they get to the final. 36 (+2 +2 +2) 42 compared to Premier playoff team playing 38 +2 playoff games (40) which is the same number as 2nd placed Championship club, 36 +4 (40) if they reach the final 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rb123! Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 Our participation in this will come down to if we get a result in our game away to Dundee in a couple of weeks on Tuesday 21st IMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doolan9 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 5 hours ago, edinburghhonestman said: Second bottom in the Premiership should play 4th in the Championship. The playoffs are too heavily weighted on survival of the top tier team. 100% agree, been saying this for years! It’s the same in every other division in Scotland don’t see why it should be any different personally. No chance of it happening though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 4th in a league of 10 shouldn't get anything imo, as funny as it was that we benefitted from it in 2006. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doolan9 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Fuctifano said: 4th in a league of 10 shouldn't get anything imo, as funny as it was that we benefitted from it in 2006. I take your point but it’s what makes football exciting. QP finished 4th last season 20 odd points behind Airdrie, they beat 9th in the championship. Look what happened and where they are now. Worthwhile in my opinion. By finishing 4th you’ve earned that small chance to shock everyone. 11th in the prem have likely been woeful all season and on most occasions were lucky not to be bottom. Just my opinion but I can understand somewhat why it’s the way it is. Edited March 8, 2023 by Doolan9 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjameos Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 18 minutes ago, Fuctifano said: 4th in a league of 10 shouldn't get anything imo, as funny as it was that we benefitted from it in 2006. Couldn't agree more....... oh wait, never mind.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, Fuctifano said: 4th in a league of 10 shouldn't get anything imo, as funny as it was that we benefitted from it in 2006. Different discussion altogether, but IMO the problem there isn't finishing 4th, it's the 'league of 10' bit. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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