TxRover Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 6 hours ago, Sugar_Army said: Experiences of war not only bring personal experiences but also collective. For some it can be guilt while for others mass denial which they want to sweep under the carpet. Japanese are still in denial with regards of the atrocities they committed, comfort women from Korea or Rape of Nanking etc and I am sure there are quite a few things the Allies have kept quiet about. It’s not just war that results in collective denial or deliberate ignorance. In the America’s, much like the rest of the world, we have a willful blind spot to the fate of the indigenous peoples. In the current U.S. , the unwillingness of the majority to accept that the system is, and has been, biased against a group or groups in society is an example of such. Having spent spdecad3s in the South, it is only now there is any real discussion of any of this bias…and there are literally no historical markers commemorating lynchings or riots against the minorities. Even the Emmet Till marker is regularly used for target practice and stolen. https://www.wlbt.com/2021/09/03/hard-understand-emmett-till-memorial-go-missing/ This is the same area of the country where bodies recovered from lakes and rivers, chained to heavy items, would result in police reports with lines like “negro suspect tried to swim away with more chain than he could support” or “n****r tried to swim off carrying an engine”. People was young as 70-80 are still capable of wildly racist statements made within conversations as normally as anything else, and the 30-60 age group still have a decent share of similar viewpoints. Only the 30 and below seem to be successful defying the hate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar_Army Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) 22 hours ago, TxRover said: It’s not just war that results in collective denial or deliberate ignorance. In the America’s, much like the rest of the world, we have a willful blind spot to the fate of the indigenous peoples. In the current U.S. , the unwillingness of the majority to accept that the system is, and has been, biased against a group or groups in society is an example of such. Having spent spdecad3s in the South, it is only now there is any real discussion of any of this bias…and there are literally no historical markers commemorating lynchings or riots against the minorities. Even the Emmet Till marker is regularly used for target practice and stolen. https://www.wlbt.com/2021/09/03/hard-understand-emmett-till-memorial-go-missing/ This is the same area of the country where bodies recovered from lakes and rivers, chained to heavy items, would result in police reports with lines like “negro suspect tried to swim away with more chain than he could support” or “n****r tried to swim off carrying an engine”. People was young as 70-80 are still capable of wildly racist statements made within conversations as normally as anything else, and the 30-60 age group still have a decent share of similar viewpoints. Only the 30 and below seem to be successful defying the hate. Was in TN staying at the house of our professor's sons once as part of a uni tour, it was about 3am when all hell broke loose. The professor's step-son (he was not close to him, turns out with good reason) was talking about the Georgia Bulldogs football team who he was a fan of, casually said "yes he is a great running back, that boy can sure run, for a n****r". One of the girls from our class went mental and called him out on it (as did others). He was genuinely surprised to be told that what he has said was out of order. He did attempt to apologise the next day saying it was the booze but she put him in his place again when she said that the thought was obviously there in the first place and the booze merely gave him the opportunity to say it. Needless to say he did not stay there long. Casual racism is there to be found, you do not even need to scratch the surface. With regards to bias, a American friend once remarked how she envied how old our culture and history was in Europe compared to hers. I merely hmmmd, then added "Of course if you stopped seeing you culture as something that started in 1492 you might find it a little more interesting". Edited March 18, 2023 by Sugar_Army 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 On 16/03/2023 at 00:31, PossilYM said: The Puritans that landed in Anerica were basically religious nutjobs. Who were hounded out of Holland...for being religious nutjobs... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 11 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Who were hounded out of Holland...for being religious nutjobs... No, they weren't. The Pilgrims (English puritans in Leiden) left Holland entirely voluntarily, having faced no oppression there whatsoever. Their decision to leave was due to two main reasons. In 1621, the Dutch peace treaty with Spain was due to end and the Pilgrims feared they'd then be forced to either directly partake in the Thirty Years War or at the very least have their way of life disturbed by it. The other reason was a belief in manifesting what they perceived as their own uniquely correct understanding of the divine. They wanted to set up a pure Christian dominion in America. There were some smaller contributing reasons. An example being their sighting of the Great Comet of 1618 which they took as a sign that the Second Coming was approaching. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted March 19, 2023 Author Share Posted March 19, 2023 @Genuine Hibs Fan finally finished the Hell on Earth podcast. Absolute class. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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