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On 10/03/2023 at 06:02, Theroadlesstravelled said:

It should go without saying but we shouldn’t pick uggos from Fife.

Apparently Clarke didn’t get the no uggo’s from Fife memo, Hyam is getting called up. 

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The 80s was an abundance of uncapped players that should have been.

Campbell Money.

Frank McDougall

Billy Stark,

John Robertson

John McMaster

Stewart McKimmie.

John McGovern

Andy Ritchie.

Kevin McAllister

Ralph Milne.

John Brown.

Hamish McAlpine.

John Hewitt 

Those are just off the top of my head

 

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11 minutes ago, Willie adie said:

The 80s was an abundance of uncapped players that should have been.

Campbell Money.

Frank McDougall

Billy Stark,

John Robertson

John McMaster

Stewart McKimmie.

John McGovern

Andy Ritchie.

Kevin McAllister

Ralph Milne.

John Brown.

Hamish McAlpine.

John Hewitt 

Those are just off the top of my head

 

Did Stewart mckimmie not score the winning goal against the world champions in 1987

Edit, in fact he got 40 caps and appeared at 3 major finals 

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7 minutes ago, Willie adie said:

The 80s was an abundance of uncapped players that should have been.

Campbell Money.

Frank McDougall

Billy Stark,

John Robertson

John McMaster

Stewart McKimmie.

John McGovern

Andy Ritchie.

Kevin McAllister

Ralph Milne.

John Brown.

Hamish McAlpine.

John Hewitt 

Those are just off the top of my head

 

John Robertson scored against Romania to qualify us for euro 92

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41 minutes ago, Willie adie said:

The 80s was an abundance of uncapped players that should have been.

Campbell Money.

Frank McDougall

Billy Stark,

John Robertson

John McMaster

Stewart McKimmie.

John McGovern

Andy Ritchie.

Kevin McAllister

Ralph Milne.

John Brown.

Hamish McAlpine.

John Hewitt 

Those are just off the top of my head

 


We qualified for every World Cup in that era, maybe the guys who got picked ahead of them were just better.

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5 hours ago, Willie adie said:

Wasn't capped until 1990s

Is this misinformation or disinformation? I'm suspecting it's the latter after your Scotland 3-0 win in 1985 patter.

Anyway, Stewart McKimmie won his first two caps in 1989.

Although, conversely, I take your point that he had been, in my view, unfairly overlooked up until then.

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7 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

Is this misinformation or disinformation? I'm suspecting it's the latter after your Scotland 3-0 win in 1985 patter.

Anyway, Stewart McKimmie won his first two caps in 1989.

Although, conversely, I take your point that he had been, in my view, unfairly overlooked up until then.

Steve Nicol

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1 hour ago, Binos said:

Stewart McKimmie:

Scottish Premier League: 1983–84, 1984–85

Scottish Cup: 1983/84, 1985/86, 1989/90

Scottish League Cup: 1985/86, 1989/90, 1995/96

European Super Cup: 1984

Not a bad haul for a player at a 'provincial' club, he would also win 40 caps compared to Nicol's 27 and score one more goal for his country than Nicol, a winner against the then World Cup holders, Argentina.

I apply the Alan Hansen test when considering whether players playing for big clubs should automatically be Scotland first XI picks.

And I've never forgiven Nicol for that miss against Uruguay in the 1986 WC.

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17 hours ago, Willie adie said:

The 80s was an abundance of uncapped players that should have been.

Campbell Money.

Frank McDougall

Billy Stark,

John Robertson

John McMaster

Stewart McKimmie.

John McGovern

Andy Ritchie.

Kevin McAllister

Ralph Milne.

John Brown.

Hamish McAlpine.

John Hewitt 

Those are just off the top of my head

 

Dougie Bell , a fantastic footballer.

as was John McMaster , as were Andy Ritchie , Ralph Milne , John Brown ( at Dundee )

Stewart McKimme was better going forward than defending.

Frank McDougall and Billy Stark were not as good in European ties as the Scottish League IMHO

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

Stewart McKimmie:

Scottish Premier League: 1983–84, 1984–85

Scottish Cup: 1983/84, 1985/86, 1989/90

Scottish League Cup: 1985/86, 1989/90, 1995/96

European Super Cup: 1984

Not a bad haul for a player at a 'provincial' club, he would also win 40 caps compared to Nicol's 27 and score one more goal for his country than Nicol, a winner against the then World Cup holders, Argentina.

I apply the Alan Hansen test when considering whether players playing for big clubs should automatically be Scotland first XI picks.

And I've never forgiven Nicol for that miss against Uruguay in the 1986 WC.

What exactly is the Alan Hansen test ?

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3 hours ago, Bogbrush1903 said:

And I've never forgiven Nicol for that miss against Uruguay in the 1986 WC.

Yeah that was a really bad miss.

I believe more blame should be attached to the Scotland manager at the time (Ferguson) who put club loyalties and issues over certain “personalities”rather than pick the best players for the tournament and that particular game.

Imagine not starting Souness against Uruguay. Even if he was only half fit he needed to play part of that game.

McAvennie should have been on from the very start instead of Sturrock. 

To leave behind Hansen and Mo Johnston was madness. Losing Hansen meant we lost the quality and experience of his mate Dalglish. 

The lowlights and the Nicol miss which was probably Scotland’s only real chance can be viewed here: 

https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/watch/3Cdnfa1FElHihRGdUK492s

http://www.scottishfootballblog.co.uk/2010/06/scotland-in-1986-another-hard-luck-tale.html?m=1

Ach. Bugger. That was a sore one to go out on. We made a habit of that in ‘74,’78,’82,’86 and ‘90. 

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On 23/02/2023 at 13:22, Les Cabbage said:

Not sure if this is what the OP means but here’s an uncapped XI as I’m on my lunch break and bored.

This is excluding the Angus Gunn’s and Elliot Anderson’s of the world that clearly don’t want to play for Scotland.

Would expect the majority of these players go on to pick up a few caps with the exception of Magennis, Halkett & Devlin.

                                 Clark

Devlin          Halkett      Welsh       Doig

       J. Campbell  Hackney  Magennis

Doak                   Conway               S. Wright

What a freightening bad team outwith Doig and Doak if that is the best we got spare then we are trully donald ducked

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