The Very Meh Humza Yousaf Thread.

[D Angelo Barksdale]

Some utterly wild takes man.

The Discourse. We love it folks.

[Antlion]

12 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

Britain doesn't have any 'socially democratic' parties and - unlike Scandi countries - there is no tradition of social democracy.

 

As you’re so fond of pedantry, “Britain” doesn’t have any parties at all, as “Britain” isn’t a political entity or a country or a state - your point therefore is meaningless.

[renton]

Genuinely interested if Kincardine Sidles up to punters in the Fox & Racist c**t  or whatever his local in Bucks is called, during an England game and bores the shit off them telling them they aren't really English at all, cos, y'know, 300 years of history... tail wagging the dog.... etc, etc.

Edited March 29, 2023 by renton

[Antlion]

12 minutes ago, renton said:

Genuinely interested if Kincardine Sidles up to punters in the Fox & Racist c**t  or whatever his local in Bucks is called, during an England game and bores the shit off them telling them they aren't really English at all, cos, y'know, 300 years of history... tail wagging the dog.... etc, etc.

They’re hardly going to like “the help” talking to them during a game, even if he is on his knees refreshing their drinks.

[Billy Jean King]

1 hour ago, The_Kincardine said:

Just keeked out the window to see if I've been moved.

Nope.  Still South Bucks.  Pishing down, though.

Raining here too in North South Ayrshire 

[scottsdad]

I, for one, welcome Scotland's Turkmenbashi. 

Hail to the chief. 

[MONKMAN]

England and Scotland are light years apart culturally, politically and ideologically. 

A border already exists between the two, but a hard border would only reaffirm this. 
 

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

It has been said before.

We're gonna build a wall, and Tory Bucks is gonna pay for it. 

[The_Kincardine]

14 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

Raining here too in North South Ayrshire 

Yet - as a glass-half-empty chap - we'll never know if that's external or not.

[The_Kincardine]

1 hour ago, MONKMAN said:

England and Scotland are light years apart culturally, politically and ideologically. 

The adoption of Humza as FM and his choice of Shona as DFM showed that ignorance and incompetence is the future for Nat Scotland.   

@MONKMANgetting ahead of the curve in showing how quickly trickle-down stupidity works.

Edited March 29, 2023 by The_Kincardine

[Shipa]

4 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Conservatism is a political ideology, this isnt a contentious point, its an actual fact, one acknowledged by the Conservative party themselves. 
 

Scotland is a distinct entity in Westminster, if it’s not then why do we have EVEL? Failing miserably, go have a gin. 

Was just looking at the Wikipedia for Highgate Cemetery, and among the noteables buried therein was a Scottish Secretary from the mid/late 19th century (can't be arsed going back for the details right now, might edit tomorrow). There was never a North of England Secretary, or a Mercia Secretary, or a Cornwall Sectretary, or an England Secretary, so it would seem that Scotland (and presumablely Wales and Ireland/NI) have always been seen as distinct entities, rather than bring an integral part of the whole that forms the UK.

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[The_Kincardine]

1 hour ago, Shipa said:

Was just looking at the Wikipedia for Highgate Cemetery, and among the noteables buried therein was a Scottish Secretary from the mid/late 19th century (can't be arsed going back for the details right now, might edit tomorrow). There was never a North of England Secretary, or a Mercia Secretary, or a Cornwall Sectretary, or an England Secretary, so it would seem that Scotland (and presumablely Wales and Ireland/NI) have always been seen as distinct entities, rather than bring an integral part of the whole that forms the UK.

Eh?  WM having a SoS for Scotland means it's not, "an integral part of the whole"?

I have said many times, "the less you know about Scotland the more likely you are to be a Nat".

Thanks for reinforcing my opinion,.

[Trogdor]

I can't believe I read that drivel and I'm still awake. 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, s_dog said:

Rubbish, there is a difference, in some cases small, but pretty much always a higher percentage of Scots have more socially democratic views. 

British Social Attitudes "research has indicated that Scotland is more socially democratic in outlook than England, though this difference is often smaller than common wisdom would suggest"

 

One place in England matches Scotland for this "more socially democratic in outlook" thing. London. Young and immigrant city. As for why places in the north of England which have similar material conditions to Scotland are more right wing than us, well that's to do with their buy-in on British nationalism. It has eroded their class consciousness that bit more than in Scotland.

[The_Kincardine]

10 minutes ago, FreedomFarter said:

One place in England matches Scotland for this "more socially democratic in outlook" thing. London. Young and immigrant city. As for why places in the north of England which have similar material conditions to Scotland are more right wing than us, well that's to do with their buy-in on British nationalism. It has eroded their class consciousness that bit more than in Scotland.

I agree that London is as close as it gets to Social Democracy in Britain in that a large number of people have a capitalistic outlook with a sense of social welfare.

You don't find this in Scotland, though, where, far too often, capitalism is seen as evil.

[Guest]

16 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

I agree that London is as close as it gets to Social Democracy in Britain in that a large number of people have a capitalistic outlook with a sense of social welfare.

I should've been more clear, that wasn't an opinion from me. I was referencing a finding from the latest UK Social Attitudes Survey. England was described (by John Curtice) as less "social democratic in outlook" than Scotland as a whole but London was the one region that did match Scotland. 

[Guest]

45 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:

You don't find this in Scotland, though, where, far too often, capitalism is seen as evil.

I think the opposite, that capitalism is not opposed nearly often enough. We only arrive at social democracy because socialism attracts enough support to frighten the capitalist class into making concessions. Nye Bevan's socialism got us our NHS, 2500 hospitals were nationalised for it, that means simply appropriated by the state not bought. Political radicalism has won us our every gain to this day.

[Arch Stanton]

3 interruptions today in the first 6 minutes of FMQs.

Whomever is screening the public gallery entrants isn't doing a very good job.

[Arch Stanton]

And again, FFS.

[Arch Stanton]

And again.