coprolite Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 35 minutes ago, orfc said: You've two choices. You're saying most unionists are right wing. Given nationalism seems to be the opposite of unionism, then you'd expect most nationalists to be left wing and therefore I am right (as I am in all things ever) Or, unionism/nationalism cuts across left/right concerns and therefore your original assertion is bollox Either way, it's not me jumping through logical hoops to say unionists are racist against Humza without any proof though is it Only if they’re linked If most people are right wing then most unionists and most nats can easily be right wing. Or maybe it’s 40/60 in one and 50/50 in the other. Then there’s centrists. The counter argument to the contention that most unionists are right wing can only be that there is not a majority of unionists that are right wing. It’s a quantitative argument, not a logical one. Whether or not most unionists are right wing (I suspect there’s proportionally more right wing people among unionists than among nats and there’s probably a slight majority) I don’t think it’s a stretch to suggest that some people who are both will make crass racist comments. I don’t think anyone suggested that all unionists would. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 36 minutes ago, peasy23 said: Remember this one? Ah that old classic, not seen that for years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Marlo Stanfield said: Bumza Poosef is trademarked and as I am the sole owner of the this intellectual (lol) property compensation in the form of royalties is due. For anyone using this, please be aware that my lawyers are watching. If this is true, I like your infantile work. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Allshit Fergiscum. Scumling Lolbion. Bumza Poosef. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 All the talk about the dearth of talent in the SNP, poor quality of candidates, and it being the death knell for Scotland is quite the take after hearing Sarwar and Ross being interviewed, right enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lex said: The fact that Kate is a practising Christian obviously ruled her out. Being a follower of the same church didn't hold back Ian Blackford leading the SNP at Westminster, along with being Vice-Chair of Christians in Parliament. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Venom Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Allshit Fergiscum. Scumling Lolbion. Bumza Poosef. Unfair Ushited 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 31 minutes ago, General dissaray said: veared directly into autharternism Nothing worse than that tbqh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Being a follower of the same church didn't hold back Ian Blackford leading the SNP at Westminster, along with being Vice-Chair of Christians in Parliament. True, but that role doesn't attract the same scrutiny as party leader and first minister does, the leader of the SNP group at Westminster has no real power outside the party. Wouldn't see Mhairi Black making emotional tweets about him infringing on her rights, like she did with Forbes. Kate is certainly the most competent and would have won, if it wasn't for her religion. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General dissaray Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Authoritarianism -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lex said: True, but that role doesn't attract the same scrutiny as party leader and first minister does, the leader of the SNP group at Westminster has no real power outside the party. Wouldn't see Mhairi Black making emotional tweets about him infringing on her rights, like she did with Forbes. Kate is certainly the most competent and would have won, if it wasn't for her religion. That’s because Blackford either doesn’t hold iffy views round folks rights or, if he does, is smart enough not to vocalize them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General dissaray Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lex said: True, but that role doesn't attract the same scrutiny as party leader and first minister does, the leader of the SNP group at Westminster has no real power outside the party. Wouldn't see Mhairi Black making emotional tweets about him infringing on her rights, like she did with Forbes. Kate is certainly the most competent and would have won, if it wasn't for her religion. All neo cons are connected to Churches its were the power is look at America,the presidents ate all vetted and put into power by there churches,always was wary off anybody wanting to be a politician in the first place though what ive learned is we can't trust them we can't even trust our own 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Lex said: True, but that role doesn't attract the same scrutiny as party leader and first minister does, the leader of the SNP group at Westminster has no real power outside the party. Wouldn't see Mhairi Black making emotional tweets about him infringing on her rights, like she did with Forbes. Kate is certainly the most competent and would have won, if it wasn't for her religion. It wasn't her religion, it was how she expressed it. Plenty devout Catholic politicians approve of contraception and abortion where necessary. Edited March 27, 2023 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, General dissaray said: Authoritarianism Well done. You what happens when you take your time and think it through. Have a gold star. Spoiler 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Lex said: True, but that role doesn't attract the same scrutiny as party leader and first minister does, the leader of the SNP group at Westminster has no real power outside the party. Wouldn't see Mhairi Black making emotional tweets about him infringing on her rights, like she did with Forbes. Kate is certainly the most competent and would have won, if it wasn't for her religion. Probably because he has never expressed any intention to do so, because you can be religious without doing so. Which would lead to the conclusion that the issue isn't a politician being religious, but a politician holding bigoted views. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General dissaray Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: It wasn't her religion, it was how she expressed it. Plenty devout Catholic approve of contraception and abortion where necessary. Her views on contraception is exactly the same in Islam that Mr Yosuf follows so there is no difference 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Lex said: True, but that role doesn't attract the same scrutiny as party leader and first minister does, the leader of the SNP group at Westminster has no real power outside the party. Wouldn't see Mhairi Black making emotional tweets about him infringing on her rights, like she did with Forbes. Kate is certainly the most competent and would have won, if it wasn't for her religion. Where does the idea that Forbes is competent come from? That she managed to read out Nicola's budget without falling over? She was a over-promoted because her boss was a wrong'un and basically there was no other stand out candidate. There is nothing in her record that says she is good or bad at her job. In fact the way she started her campaign showed that she was wildly incompetent. Poor politics in taking the line she did with her religious attitudes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzler Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Dunning1874 said: Probably because he has never expressed any intention to do so, because you can be religious without doing so. Which would lead to the conclusion that the issue isn't a politician being religious, but a politician holding bigoted views. would go one stage further and say the issue would then be expressing bigoted views 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Anyway congrats to Humza on being the first openly REPUBLICAN first minister. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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