welshbairn Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Great vid on how Rwanda is using drone technology to deliver medical supplies to remote parts of the country. Truly inspirational. I assume this isn't a defence of forced trafficking of Syrian asylum seekers to Rwanda? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: I assume this isn't a defence of forced trafficking of Syrian asylum seekers to Rwanda? If it riles you then I'd be happy to say that. But no. It's just one of these vids that Youtube excels at. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 minute ago, The_Kincardine said: If it riles you then I'd be happy to say that. But no. It's just one of these vids that Youtube excels at. I'd just be very disappointed if it was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'd just be very disappointed if it was. Your posting has been a disappointment to us all this past month. A sort of 'finger in the dyke' ( @Jacksgranda) in reverse. You're not keeping the water out but denying that it's washing over the whole of iJockland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, virginton said: The policies of the Scottish government and the ideology of party itself are two different things. The SNP has clearly pivoted towards the left of centre - starting under Salmond and then accelerating under Sturgeon. Some would argue that it has now also pursued daft liberal obsessions about identity politics (and daft Green fixations like charging everyone a massive tax on recycling) that has acted to the detriment of genuine left wing social justice issues in its current term. The SNP's M.O. is to act as the national party of Scotland. That includes all of Scotland and not just trying to take over Scottish Labour's traditional base of support in the Central Belt. It is a party of the centre and if it cannot have a fair and open discussion of different ways to make Scotland a better place after independence, will never succeed in achieving its goal. There are far too many narcissists attached to the Yes movement who cannot see the wood for the trees here. No. The policies reflect the ideology, to suggest otherwise is nonsensical. Of course an ideology can change over time and will sooner or later be reflected in the policies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 35 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Maybe the jealousy thing struck home, though I find it amusing being accused of being right wing by you. Keep it up. Well, you started this nonsense. Given my posting history on this forum I'm beginning to think you're mixing me up with another poster due to your age/too much sun and wine. Not to worry though, like you I'm planning to prove my left wing credentials beyond all doubt by voting to make working class people poorer before fucking off abroad to leave them with the consequences. Once I'm safely out the country a few posts rubbing peoples faces in it while calling them jealous will seal the deal. The ultimate act of solidarity. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bodie said: Well, you started this nonsense. Given my posting history on this forum I'm beginning to think you're mixing me up with another poster due to your age/too much sun and wine. Not to worry though, like you I'm planning to prove my left wing credentials beyond all doubt by voting to make working class people poorer before fucking off abroad to leave them with the consequences. Once I'm safely out the country a few posts rubbing peoples faces in it while calling them jealous will seal the deal. The ultimate act of solidarity. Stopped reading at ‘given my posting history’. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 How much of a tax increase would it take to persuade people to leave Scotland for England? I am actually one of those people who pay more tax now and I also work in a team that’s based in England and Scotland so if I really wanted to I could relocate pretty easily. I can’t be arsed though. Seems like a bother. If I was going to relocate like that I’d move to the US or Canada where people doing jobs like mine tend to earn far larger salaries. Comparatively poor pay for professional jobs is a strange feature of the British economy that people don’t seem to cotton on to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: Stopped reading because I've lost whatever daft point I've been trying to make and have once again made myself look like the silly old fool that I am. FTFY 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Terry_Tibbs said: You presumably like public services because you use them frequently. Higher earners use public services the least and many would rather keep more of their income for themselves. The threshold at which is becomes worth doing will vary depending on the individual. If it was a 60% top rate vs a 45% top we'd see significant numbers of highers crossing the border. I don't. My point was living in England i wouldn't feel like i'm a "foreign" country. If i'm in Bavaria i feel like like a foreigner. The word foreign doesn't have negative connotations for me. If tax divergence is a problem under devolution the problem doesn't disappear by having a physical border. Many Scots feel equally at home living in England or Wales is what i'm getting at. Edit: Just noticed the typo. I meant to say feel like. https://theconversation.com/finlands-brain-drain-what-happens-to-small-countries-when-the-talent-leaves-79952 http://www.nordiclabourjournal.org/nyheter/news-2023/article.2023-02-23.1819792742 https://yle.fi/a/74-20022735 So after furious googling that's the best that you can come up with. The Finnish experience likely has no relevance to Scotland. Indeed had you actually read it fully, the author of your first link specifically states his view is that the Finnish experience is likely to be reversed in the case of an independent Scotland. Why would there be a flow of migration from the wealthier Northern part of this island to the poorer Southern bit, once the North finally decides to end its subsidy. Its clearly much more likely to be the opposite. Edited March 19, 2023 by git-intae-thum Typo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: No. The policies reflect the ideology, to suggest otherwise is nonsensical. There's no evidence that the SNP's party ideology is of a left-wing movement. It's not in the party constitution and its election manifestos have been both on the centre right and the centre left since devolution. The current set of policies reflect the short-term tactical choices (and personal preferences) made by the leadership and those who influence that position. It can quite easily pivot under a different leader without causing any fundamental change to the party's identity or membership. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: Your posting has been a disappointment to us all this past month. A sort of 'finger in the dyke' ( @Jacksgranda) in reverse. You're not keeping the water out but denying that it's washing over the whole of iJockland. Sad to see that the Rwanda policy was enough to bring you back in the Tory fold after seeing Brexit as a step too far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Stopped reading at ‘given my posting history’. I wish you'd stop posting as well. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Sad to see that the Rwanda policy was enough to bring you back in the Tory fold after seeing Brexit as a step too far. eh? The f**k are you havering about? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 17 minutes ago, Bodie said: Given my posting history on this forum If you Hibee c***s could stop changing usernames every five minutes, we might have more of an idea who you all are! Look at what you've all done to the mods. They used to be so boring and reliable, with names like "Keith" and "Ziggy" or whatever. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, BTFD said: If you Hibee c***s could stop changing usernames every five minutes, we might have more of an idea who you all are! Look at what you've all done to the mods. They used to be so boring and reliable, with names like "Keith" and "Ziggy" or whatever. Who the f**k's @Trogdor btw? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 There’s about five Hibs posters who I just respond to collectively. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Who the f**k's @Trogdor btw? An Ayr fan and occasional P&B chess player (not as good as @DeeTillEhDehmind). Spoiler Also known as the burninator 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 We boring middle-aged fannies should agree to rotate usernames between us every now and then, although I'm not sure the young sexy Hibs set would notice any difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 23 minutes ago, BTFD said: If you Hibee c***s could stop changing usernames every five minutes, we might have more of an idea who you all are! I'm due another name change soon actually. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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