Donathan Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Is Regan thick as mince, or is she deliberately misleading SNP members into thinking that this “Voter Empowerment Mechanism” strategy will actually work to deliver independence? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrbridgeSaintee Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Leith Green said: Isnt that one of the terrorist organisations your lot sing about at Ibrox? Follow in your father’s footsteps son and join the UDI.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 31 minutes ago, Donathan said: Is Regan thick as mince, or is she deliberately misleading SNP members into thinking that this “Voter Empowerment Mechanism” strategy will actually work to deliver independence? 1) By many accounts, yes 2) Is allegedly being worked from the back by Abla, so possibly believes it will work that being the case, but also lends credence to 1) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TONTROOPER Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 hours ago, Dunning1874 said: Funny you should say that, as the issue of why so many of her former staffers have NDAs has come up and she failed to answer when asked about bullying. Particularly enjoyed this short thread: Valid point Dunning though cognisance should be given to the fact that @montague 90 is firmly in the Humza camp. A commenter on another blog said.." There is a touch of the Liz Truss about her." Kate Forbes for me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) Hopefully Mhairi Black will stand in Scottish Parliament in the next election. Edited February 24, 2023 by betting competition 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 I think the kindest adjectives you could use to describe the choices as next first minister are divisive and underwhelming. That’s a remarkably low calibre of candidate. They’re are some decent politicians in the SNP, it’s a shame none of them are running. I am sure the first thing whoever wins will do is call a Holyrood election. Can’t have the SNP members choosing our first minister, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lex said: Can’t have the SNP members choosing our first minister, right? Spot on. That's why they're choosing the new SNP leader and the Scottish parliament will choose the new first minister. But you knew that already huh ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Bodie said: Spot on. That's why they're choosing the new SNP leader and the Scottish parliament will choose the new first minister. But you knew that already huh ? Why is it ok for the Scottish Parliament to choose the FM but not ok for the UK parliament to choose the PM? The SNP have repeatedly called for elections whenever the Tories have changed leaders in recent years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Bodie said: Spot on. That's why they're choosing the new SNP leader and the Scottish parliament will choose the new first minister. But you knew that already huh ? As much as we laugh at/pity the various losers and their sock puppet accounts, this is genuinely risibly stupid stuff from Lex. I've never quite understood why outing yourself as an utter thicko is considered a good trolling tactic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Donathan said: Why is it ok for the Scottish Parliament to choose the FM but not ok for the UK parliament to choose the PM? The SNP have repeatedly called for elections whenever the Tories have changed leaders in recent years. Erm, does the UK parliament choose the PM? Sunak and Truss were put in place by the Tory membership. Did the entire HoC get a vote on them being PM? I thought they just became PM by default as Tory leader. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, Donathan said: Why is it ok for the Scottish Parliament to choose the FM but not ok for the UK parliament to choose the PM? The SNP have repeatedly called for elections whenever the Tories have changed leaders in recent years. We've got a fixed term parliament, and we've had the same party leader for 8 years, the Tories have had 3 in a year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 How do people define a 'good politician'? Someone who speaks well? Someone that wins elections? Someone that's a capable administrator? Someone that has a clear vision for what they want to do in office? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Benjamin_Nevis said: Erm, does the UK parliament choose the PM? Sunak and Truss were put in place by the Tory membership. Did the entire HoC get a vote on them being PM? I thought they just became PM by default as Tory leader. The monarch appoints the person who can command majority support in the house of commons. In practice, they don't go through the charade of voting like the Scottish Parliament does, but it's effectively the same system. The PM/FM is the person who commands the most support in the house. Technically the King could appoint whoever he likes but if the house of commons voted no confidence in that person, they'd have to resign. So the monarch will always be advised to appoint whoever has majority support. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Donathan said: Why is it ok for the Scottish Parliament to choose the FM but not ok for the UK parliament to choose the PM? The SNP have repeatedly called for elections whenever the Tories have changed leaders in recent years. You'd be better off directing this question at the SNP tbf, but seeing as there hasn't been any elections called during the Westminster managerial merry-go-round, why would you think the Scottish parliament would have do so ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, Donathan said: Why is it ok for the Scottish Parliament to choose the FM but not ok for the UK parliament to choose the PM? The SNP have repeatedly called for elections whenever the Tories have changed leaders in recent years. It's fine, if that's what they did - but they don't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Quitely Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, ICTChris said: How do people define a 'good politician'? Someone who speaks well? Someone that wins elections? Someone that's a capable administrator? Someone that has a clear vision for what they want to do in office? All of the above. I'd also add honesty, notwithstanding the opprobrium that has been heaped on Kate Forbes for expressing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, Donathan said: The monarch appoints the person who can command majority support in the house of commons. In practice, they don't go through the charade of voting like the Scottish Parliament does, but it's effectively the same system. The PM/FM is the person who commands the most support in the house. Technically the King could appoint whoever he likes but if the house of commons voted no confidence in that person, they'd have to resign. So the monarch will always be advised to appoint whoever has majority support. It's not effectively the same system at all. The Holyrood chamber votes on its First Minister, the House of Commons does not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, ICTChris said: How do people define a 'good politician'? Someone who speaks well? Someone that wins elections? Someone that's a capable administrator? Someone that has a clear vision for what they want to do in office? The bold bit would certainly help. The SG needs to deliver, there is no hope of converting more people to yes by just being less worse than the Tories at Westminster. Which frankly seems to have been the strategy up to now. This is the opportunity for a reset, tell me what you'll do differently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Is there nothing to be said for another election? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ICTChris said: How do people define a 'good politician'? Someone who speaks well? Someone that wins elections? Someone that's a capable administrator? Someone that has a clear vision for what they want to do in office? That and someone with the skill to avoid being forced into giving yes/know answers to questions that require a nuanced response. Edited February 24, 2023 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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