LiviLion Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) 44 minutes ago, ATLIS said: I would say it is down to cost and nothing else, as dodgy as it is for fans to watch, I'm sure managers would rather the correct decisions are made. Delays or not to restarting the game Managers have done nothing but complain about it. As soon as given the choice in the cup it's been a big no from every club. They knew the cost associated when it came in, why would they suddenly decide it's not worth it other than thinking it's a heap of shite that does nothing but emphasise our shite referees? Edited February 9, 2023 by LiviLion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 1 hour ago, ATLIS said: I would say it is down to cost and nothing else, as dodgy as it is for fans to watch, I'm sure managers would rather the correct decisions are made. Delays or not to restarting the game 21 minutes ago, LiviLion said: Managers have done nothing but complain about it. As soon as given the choice in the cup it's been a big no from every club. They knew the cost associated when it came in, why would they suddenly decide it's not worth it other than thinking it's a heap of shite that does nothing but emphasise our shite referees? Martindale was on the radio today saying it was not financially viable for us to have it in cup games. Dunno if we'd even break even if we had VAR. Depending on how many Caley bring there's prob going to be about 2,000, split gate, then knock 10K off for VAR, there wouldn't be much left. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 3 hours ago, LiviLion said: Managers have done nothing but complain about it. As soon as given the choice in the cup it's been a big no from every club. They knew the cost associated when it came in, why would they suddenly decide it's not worth it other than thinking it's a heap of shite that does nothing but emphasise our shite referees? If it was free, we'd be using it. The only reason we're not is because it'll cost 10k to use it. Which is fair, it's the right choice. I suspect all other clubs would be the same, if it was free, then they'd be using it. The only reason they're not is because of the stupidly high cost to doing so. It'll cost us the same as selling 666 tickets or something like that. 'Suddenly' deciding not to use it is coming from it being a one off cup game, clubs all agreed to use it across the range of a season and have the costs up front there. I'm not sure many or any would budget to then have a random outgoing of 10k per game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 2 hours ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Martindale was on the radio today saying it was not financially viable for us to have it in cup games. Dunno if we'd even break even if we had VAR. Depending on how many Caley bring there's prob going to be about 2,000, split gate, then knock 10K off for VAR, there wouldn't be much left. I'm pretty sure it's not a straight 50/50 split, I think it's split following the costs of putting the game on. So minus policing etc, I'd imagine that also includes cost of VAR but would be down to both clubs to agree on using it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 33 minutes ago, ATLIS said: I'm pretty sure it's not a straight 50/50 split, I think it's split following the costs of putting the game on. So minus policing etc, I'd imagine that also includes cost of VAR but would be down to both clubs to agree on using it. I read elsewhere that it's 60/40. Lucky you are the home gate, by our cup attendances this season Livi would have ended up owing us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Just now, SandyCromarty said: I read elsewhere that it's 60/40. Lucky you are the home gate, by our cup attendances this season Livi would have ended up owing us. It very would could be that too, I know it's slightly off 50/50 to cover for the costs of getting the game on. If we decided to run VAR then I think both clubs could've just went home with £20 in the pocket each 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanjo Nostalgia Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) Apologies for being thick, but is the whole east stand the away end? Doesn’t seem very clear from the ticket website. Edited February 9, 2023 by Juanjo Nostalgia 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, Juanjo Nostalgia said: Apologies for being thick, but is the whole east stand the away end? Doesn’t seem very clear from the ticket website. Yeah it will be 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdu98196 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 18 hours ago, LiviLion said: Managers have done nothing but complain about it. As soon as given the choice in the cup it's been a big no from every club. They knew the cost associated when it came in, why would they suddenly decide it's not worth it other than thinking it's a heap of shite that does nothing but emphasise our shite referees? Scottish football yet again demonstrating its too backward and narrow minded for any change or any kind of revolution or modernisation. Whether it be VAR, league structure, fan experience, stadiums etc.............. While we can all complain about referees it doesn't help the standard when we have a duopoly that the media are happy to play up to and every time there is a questionable decision or genuine error we get the whole 'which school did he attend' chat and hear of Refs sent death threats and intimidated. Refs work in a culture of bullying and intimidation which would not be accepted in any other workplace, utterly thankless job in the Scottish game perpetuated by those that employ them and fail to protect them IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 3 hours ago, bdu98196 said: Scottish football yet again demonstrating its too backward and narrow minded for any change or any kind of revolution or modernisation. Whether it be VAR, league structure, fan experience, stadiums etc.............. While we can all complain about referees it doesn't help the standard when we have a duopoly that the media are happy to play up to and every time there is a questionable decision or genuine error we get the whole 'which school did he attend' chat and hear of Refs sent death threats and intimidated. Refs work in a culture of bullying and intimidation which would not be accepted in any other workplace, utterly thankless job in the Scottish game perpetuated by those that employ them and fail to protect them IMO. Yeah by 2 sets of supporters, the other 10 still get questionable/downright ridiculous decisions in games and VAR hasn't changed that any, it does pick up some decisions the officials missed/got wrong, but it just balances that out by getting other ones wrong, that it shouldn't have been involved in to start with. Then of course no c**t in the stadium knows what is going on with it when games get stopped for VAR decisions. It's basically a tool to help officials referee games better, but the tools using it still get decisions wrong, and the interpretation of rules is so inconsistent it frustrates and bewilders, managers, players, and fans, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mantis Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) On 09/02/2023 at 18:12, ATLIS said: It very would could be that too, I know it's slightly off 50/50 to cover for the costs of getting the game on. If we decided to run VAR then I think both clubs could've just went home with £20 in the pocket each I was involved in this at a non-league club up until about 2018, so it may have changed. The SFA sent a spreadsheet to the home club which did all the sums for you, but essentially you take 20% off for the home club’s costs then split the rest. Edited February 10, 2023 by The Mantis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy.1995 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 To the game itself.Hope Livi start with their strongest lineup.Caley givin a second bite at this,and they'll want to capitalise i suspect. First scorer will be crucial i reckon here.All the pretalk about us wanting a cup run goes out the window here.No matter how we do it just get ourselves into the hat for the next round Livi.Looking forward to this. Mon the Lions.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mouse995044 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYMMWGvp/ Hope everyone is singing this Loud and Proud today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLIS Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 That’s a very strong team from us 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, ATLIS said: That’s a very strong team from us Genuinely thought we'd see De Lucas if there were going to be any changes. That's a lineup you'd expect against Aberdeen or Hibs....fantastic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Cptn Hooch said: Genuinely thought we'd see De Lucas if there were going to be any changes. That's a lineup you'd expect against Aberdeen or Hibs....fantastic Sounds like Boyes only misses out through illness as well, Marty not fucking about. Fully prepared for us to make a mess of this 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thruthenight Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Cptn Hooch said: Genuinely thought we'd see De Lucas if there were going to be any changes. That's a lineup you'd expect against Aberdeen or Hibs....fantastic Martindale has been quite forward about how much he wants a Scottish Cup run, so I'm not surprised to see the best team out there. Looks pretty attacking as well with Pittman, Kelly, & the front 3. Boyes has a bug apparently 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Belt Caley Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Robbie Deas back on the bench? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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