Benjamin_Nevis Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 I had SSN on in the background last night, but was I imagining things or did they really use Pele's death as an excuse to shoehorn Gordon Banks's half-decent save in 1970? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Benjamin_Nevis said: I had SSN on in the background last night, but was I imagining things or did they really use Pele's death as an excuse to shoehorn Gordon Banks's half-decent save in 1970? While I praised the tribute last night, they did spend a good minute talking about that vastly overrated save yes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Thistle Bonnet said: i was fortunate enough to see Pele at Hampden against Scotland in a friendly just before the 1966 World Cup. Billy Bremner kicked him up and down the park...and that was just during the National Anthems. Nobody noticed Scotland until they scored in the first minute. Sadly Pele suffered even more brutal treatment and was literally kicked out the World Cup in the qualifying round. I was 14 at the time of the 1970 World Cup...we could watch football on colour TV and we had genuinely never seen anything like it. Jairzinho, Gerson and Rivelino were fantastic but Pele was something else. It's the goals he didn't score that particularly stick in the memory...Gordon Banks' phenomenal save from his header...nearly lobbing a startled Czech goalkeeper from the half way line...and the dummy on the Uruguayan keeper which moved everyone watching one place to the left. It's always said that sportsmen with special talent seem to have more time than anyone else...the iconic fourth goal in the final against Italy was the perfect example....he controlled the pass from Jairzinho, had time for a puff at a cigar before rolling the ball right into Carlos Alberto's stride. Good God, this could have been myself writing this, right down to the exact same age as yourself. Even at a half-century and more the Brazil team of 1970 remains the gold standard of football as it should be played, with Pele the brightest jewel in the crown. As for the keepers, thanks to the great man I've had the names Ivo Viktor and Ladislao Mazurkiewicz imprinted all that time. Greenie for the memories. Edited December 30, 2022 by O'Kelly Isley III 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisal Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, Autistisches Nilpferd said: While I praised the tribute last night, they did spend a good minute talking about that vastly overrated save yes It shows how good Pele was. Banks was the greatest keeper of all time for saving a Pele header and Bobby Moore the the best defender for winning a tackle against him once. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 First footballer to be abducted by aliens too... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) To my knowledge he only ever made 11 appearances in the British Isles... which shows how less "global" football was in those days. Majority of these were on Santos world tours, where they were playing a game every other day in different countries. Think this is the lot. Note how it literally becomes all about him during 1970s: Monday 22nd October 1962 Sheffield Wednesday 2-4 Santos 49,058 Wednesday 8th May 1963 England 1-1 Brazil 92,000 Saturday 25th June 1966 Scotland 1-1 Brazil 74,933 Tuesday 12th July 1966 Bulgaria 0-2 Brazil 47,308 at Everton Tuesday 19th July 1966 Portugal 3-1 Brazil 58,749 at Everton Monday 22nd September 1969 Stoke City 2-3 Santos 23,756 Monday 21st February 1972 Aston Villa 2-1 Santos 55,000 Wednesday 23rd February 1972 Sheffield Wednesday 0-2 Santos 36,996 Saturday 26th February 1972 Bohemian & Drumcondra 2-3 Santos 30,000 Monday 12th March 1973 Fulham 2-1 Santos 21,464 Wednesday 14th March 1973 Plymouth Argyle 3-2 Santos 37,639 Edited December 30, 2022 by HibeeJibee 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: Most of these c***s who are now talking about how great Pele was were saying he only scored against farmers a couple of weeks ago. The players of today couldn't lace the boots of these " farmers". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 4 hours ago, parsforlife said: I'm maybe being a bit of a bam here, but what's so impressive about this goal? Ball won in own third, simple pass to CH, couple of easy passes into midfield where there is absolutely zero press, a decent bit of play by the midfielder to draw a few players in and get some space, TBF but still over 60 yards from goal, a basic ball down the line, winger cut inside, an easy ball infield and an simple pass to the expected on rushing full back. That's going to be lucky to be in the top 10 league one goals this year. You're not. Most overrated goal of all time. No pressing at all. A child's team could have put that together. Meanwhile Messi is making Gvardiol look like a diddy clown shoe seasider. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle Bonnet Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, Venti said: You're not. Most overrated goal of all time. No pressing at all. A child's team could have put that together. Meanwhile Messi is making Gvardiol look like a diddy clown shoe seasider. Football has changed massively over the years...players are much fitter and more tactically aware now but brutal tackling is no longer a part of the game. It has been an absolute privilege to have seen Pele, Marradona & Messi play football but back in the day football was more of a physical challenge. Marradona was fouled 28 times in the World Cup game against Italy in 1982 - 2 Italians were booked. Messi's assist against Croatia was fantastic but in Pele's day he would have been hacked down before he had ran 5 yards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Thistle Bonnet said: Football has changed massively over the years...players are much fitter and more tactically aware now but brutal tackling is no longer a part of the game. It has been an absolute privilege to have seen Pele, Marradona & Messi play football but back in the day football was more of a physical challenge. Marradona was fouled 28 times in the World Cup game against Italy in 1982 - 2 Italians were booked. Messi's assist against Croatia was fantastic but in Pele's day he would have been hacked down before he had ran 5 yards. The 'hatchet man fallacy'. Really? So the physically superior atheles defending in this era aren't more of a threat than yonder year hatchet men? Ffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, HibeeJibee said: That programme design looks like something from 30 years earlier! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 5 hours ago, parsforlife said: I'm maybe being a bit of a bam here, but what's so impressive about this goal? Erm, everything? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 16 hours ago, boomboomyards said: Wasnt the first to do a Panenka. That was Antonin Panenka. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 11 hours ago, Satoshi said: Could have met him at a work event a few years ago but didn't go. Ffs. You had a chance to meet a legend of the game. Just imagine the stats you could have bored him with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Venti said: The 'hatchet man fallacy'. Really? So the physically superior atheles defending in this era aren't more of a threat than yonder year hatchet men? Ffs. Correct. These defenders only have to touch these modern day forwards and they drop to the ground. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, HibeeJibee said: 1 hour ago, Lurkst said: That programme design looks like something from 30 years earlier! SFA certainly got value-for-money! 1959: 1960: 1961: 1962: 1963: 1964: 1965: 1966: Edited December 30, 2022 by HibeeJibee 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said: SFA certainly got value-for-money! 1960: 1961: 1962: 1963: 1964: 1965: 1966: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Was Neil Doncaster a graphic designer as a child? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 Just now, Jacksgranda said: Just now, Melanius Mullarkay said: Was Neil Doncaster a graphic designer as a child? Notice: - Hampden background is used even at Ibrox/Parkhead/Pittodrie - recoloured green for Celtic + Eire + LofI 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 would have had no idea Chic Young was interviewing Pele here if it were not for the "when Chic met Pele" graphic. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CmzAZMwKz4b/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link And when Chic says that Pele is the greatest ever, who are we to argue? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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