kingjoey Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, ropy said: I think there is an overlap where one ref would give a yellow and another a red. No one would have had a problem with a yellow. Likewise no one should have a problem with the red. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 1 minute ago, kingjoey said: Likewise no one should have a problem with the red. My problem with the red was that it signalled the point that Motherwell fell out the game. Quite comfortable before that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RostokMcSpoons Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 I don't know if the VAR guy had different views than the telly... certainly the gif of the tackle makes it look to me like Watt was trying his best to swerve his leg out of the contact, and I laughed out aloud for him getting red carded for it. But the pic on the BBC site gives an entirely different complexion to it... the red card would be absolutely nailed-on if you'd only seen it like this: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 Ffs, there's no intent whatsoever. Football is becoming increasingly mental but an accident is still just an accident. If you must impose a yellow for a tiny infraction then .. so be it, yellows have been flashed and non-flashed for a great variety of non events for some years now .. but the notion that a genuine effort to play the ball with no malice or recklessness by the letter (not the actual letter) of the law should be a red is just too much. Any player trying to kick a ball can potentially hurt another player if they happen to get there first or poke a foot in or come in from an oblique angle. You can't be seriously thinking of sending someone off just because of the outcome (especially when the outcome is more likely than not to be mostly contrived by a cynical opponent) with no intent or sensible interpretation of recklessness. Players might be well advised to remove their arms and footwear before entering the pitch just in case someone blooters the ball against them or gets in the way of an entirely innocent effort to play the ball. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, RostokMcSpoons said: I don't know if the VAR guy had different views than the telly... certainly the gif of the tackle makes it look to me like Watt was trying his best to swerve his leg out of the contact, and I laughed out aloud for him getting red carded for it. But the pic on the BBC site gives an entirely different complexion to it... the red card would be absolutely nailed-on if you'd only seen it like this: You can have all the angles in the world but if an idiot is interpreting it then you're going to get idiotic decisions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, RostokMcSpoons said: I don't know if the VAR guy had different views than the telly... certainly the gif of the tackle makes it look to me like Watt was trying his best to swerve his leg out of the contact, and I laughed out aloud for him getting red carded for it. But the pic on the BBC site gives an entirely different complexion to it... the red card would be absolutely nailed-on if you'd only seen it like this: Sorry, I just red dotted you for posting that ridiculous still without reading the text. The BBC match report is cheeky as f**k considering that every single one of their pundits was in agreement that the red was bullshit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdyteejay Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Likewise no one should have a problem with the red. Still smarting from the 4-0 grubbing I see. Pleasing. Edited October 29, 2022 by kdyteejay . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: Ffs, there's no intent whatsoever. Football is becoming increasingly mental but an accident is still just an accident. If you must impose a yellow for a tiny infraction then .. so be it, yellows have been flashed and non-flashed for a great variety of non events for some years now .. but the notion that a genuine effort to play the ball with no malice or recklessness by the letter (not the actual letter) of the law should be a red is just too much. Any player trying to kick a ball can potentially hurt another player if they happen to get there first or poke a foot in or come in from an oblique angle. You can't be seriously thinking of sending someone off just because of the outcome (especially when the outcome is more likely than not to be mostly contrived by a cynical opponent) with no intent or sensible interpretation of recklessness. Players might be well advised to remove their arms and footwear before entering the pitch just in case someone blooters the ball against them or gets in the way of an entirely innocent effort to play the ball. I think the problem is that football is fucked and past the point of no return. I was initially up for VAR in the hope it wouldn't give referees the ability to make a complete c**t of things after an initial mistake but, well, here we are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, RostokMcSpoons said: I don't know if the VAR guy had different views than the telly... certainly the gif of the tackle makes it look to me like Watt was trying his best to swerve his leg out of the contact, and I laughed out aloud for him getting red carded for it. But the pic on the BBC site gives an entirely different complexion to it... the red card would be absolutely nailed-on if you'd only seen it like this: The picture you have posted appears to show Watt's foot missing the shin of Goss, to my eyes. It's a still image, something the VAR officials don't utilise, and if that's the best proof anyone can give supporting a red card, it's rather flimsy. The point being made, maybe, is why VAR officials decided this was one incident they felt they should dominate, yet more contentious stuff in this game (eg Slattery on Harkes) and in other matches have been passed by. If VAR hadn't got involved in the Watt sending off, that wee phase of the match would have been forgotten about 20 seconds later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldaft Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) For fuxsake. It could have been a yellow. It could have been a red. United are bottom of the league despite having a top 6 budget. Perhaps you should reflect on that rather than a dubious decision. I hope Yankee boy has deep pockets. Edited October 29, 2022 by welldaft 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, RostokMcSpoons said: I don't know if the VAR guy had different views than the telly... certainly the gif of the tackle makes it look to me like Watt was trying his best to swerve his leg out of the contact, and I laughed out aloud for him getting red carded for it. But the pic on the BBC site gives an entirely different complexion to it... the red card would be absolutely nailed-on if you'd only seen it like this: Need to get that last bit of leg coloured in Tony. IMO. Thank you. Edited October 29, 2022 by Bigmouth Strikes Again -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 48 minutes ago, RostokMcSpoons said: Are shin guards not a requirement at all anymore? From the behind the goal view, you'd understand a red being given. The side on view, a yellow. To go to replay and have that latter one available and yet decide red is a rib tickler of a decision. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boozyBJ Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 6 hours ago, capt_oats said: Can you double greenie this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinkle Posted October 29, 2022 Share Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: Need to get that last bit of leg coloured in Tony. IMO. Thank you. You have been posting your shite patter all day yet you sit 6h in the Championship. Behave Edited October 30, 2022 by Twinkle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual Insanity Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 Not a foul. Play on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 11 hours ago, kdyteejay said: Still smarting from the 4-0 grubbing I see. Pleasing. Could have been yellow, could have been red. No one should have any real complaints. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 It's a red card for me, simply because that's a very funny outcome. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 19 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said: It's a red card for me, simply because that's a very funny outcome. I respect that tbh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 10 hours ago, Twinkle said: You have been posting your shite patter all day yet you sit 6h in the Championship. Behave You’re assuming a level of self-awareness that doesn’t exist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 By the way, can we stop using still images to prove that a tackle should or shouldn't be a red card? Please...? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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