throbber Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 At least 174 people confirmed dead as of right now, that number was 50 less an hour ago so it could well be the worst football stadium disaster in history. Footage on social media appeared to show a large crowd heading for the centre of the pitch then fleeing the police/tear gas at an alarming rate towards the corner of the ground where a lot of the fatalities must have taken place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tight minge Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Allegedly 42000 tickets sold for a stadium that holds 38000. Indonesian football has a long history of violence. Families of the dead already being offered 15m IDR (GBP880). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Has the death toll been revised down or are BBC just behind everyone else on the reporting? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 How could they revise it down? Have some of the dead come back to life? Were some of the dead bodies already there pre-incident? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 You have to wonder just how many non-white football fans have to perish to knock the Tory party conference off the BBC news headlines -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 8 hours ago, Tight John McVeigh is a tit said: Allegedly 42000 tickets sold for a stadium that holds 38000. Indonesian football has a long history of violence. Families of the dead already being offered 15m IDR (GBP880). 10% over H&S capacity rules is neither here nor there, it's firing tear gas into the stands because of a riot on the pitch that has to be questioned. What side did the cops support? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted October 2, 2022 Author Share Posted October 2, 2022 Justice for the 125-175. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyAnchor Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 26 minutes ago, welshbairn said: What side did the cops support? Masons every one of them I'm sure so probably Killie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 How could they revise it down? Have some of the dead come back to life? Were some of the dead bodies already there pre-incident?If it was Ibrox the answer to two of those questions would be yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tight minge Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 5 hours ago, welshbairn said: 10% over H&S capacity rules is neither here nor there, it's firing tear gas into the stands because of a riot on the pitch that has to be questioned. What side did the cops support? Correct, but it’s a factor, along with use of tear gas and heavy handed policing. Indonesian domestic football has been a mess for years plagued with corruption, greed and off the scale policing. This was a mid table clash, all be it by rivals. Traveling support is not really a thing due to the distances, this will squarely fall with the local government, police and club. Hence why the usual and quick offer of a pitiful compensation to stop any future legal actions has been offered. The whole point is the corruption and greed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Tight John McVeigh is a tit said: Correct, but it’s a factor, along with use of tear gas and heavy handed policing. Indonesian domestic football has been a mess for years plagued with corruption, greed and off the scale policing. This was a mid table clash, all be it by rivals. Traveling support is not really a thing due to the distances, this will squarely fall with the local government, police and club. Hence why the usual and quick offer of a pitiful compensation to stop any future legal actions has been offered. The whole point is the corruption and greed. Bad, but not as bad as Port Said, despite the higher death toll. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Said_Stadium_riot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tight minge Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Bad, but not as bad as Port Said, despite the higher death toll. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Said_Stadium_riot Yes, all of this could have been avoided, but it’s been bubbling away for years. The fact is there will be zero accountability at the local level. The money paid out to the families already (same thing happened with the Lion Air crash a few years ago), will stop nearly (virtually 100%) any legal action. The local police chief immediately stated they had exhausted all preventative measures before using tear gas, despite tear gas being banned. Jokowi can demand a full investigation but little will come of it. The whole ‘Kampong protection’ drive will be in full swing. It will be interesting to see if FIFA take any real stance here, if not this will be old news very quickly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Football provides an escape from the restrictions of civilised life, thankfully in Scotland now it's mainly contained to normally mild mannered middle aged men shouting expletives at linesmen, players or the ref, or street dancing from the young teams. It gets more embarrassing in lower league football because the linesman in particular can hear every word. Not sure how they made the shift from the days when violence was widespread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 7 hours ago, Cosmic Joe said: You have to wonder just how many non-white football fans have to perish to get a thread to make the two page mark 16 hrs after the OP on a football forum. FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 16 hours ago, Mr. Alli said: How could they revise it down? Have some of the dead come back to life? Were some of the dead bodies already there pre-incident? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 No white folks died though 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 No white folks died thoughWhich apparently makes it a great opportunity to try and score some points about race while completely bypassing the actual events of the story. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 How could they revise it down? Have some of the dead come back to life? Were some of the dead bodies already there pre-incident?I suggest you look back to an incident in NYC involving tall buildings and aircrafts if you want some background into rounding down death tolls. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Surprised this hasn't had a mention in GN today El Salvador stadium crush 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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