BillyAnchor Posted October 2, 2022 Share Posted October 2, 2022 Guided by Voices are a group I feel I should like and have tried but just never got it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieKTID Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Metal or really heavy rawk for me, I get that there's a certain level of skill involved but it just seems like noise for the sake of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I like a lot of hip hop but I get all suburban liberal about women being called bitches. Also there's a fine line between the raw experience of people's lives and gang/poverty porn that makes a lot of gangsta and drill off limits for me. I don't have a consistent moral standard here though and i can overlook excessive "bitch" use or some motherfucker getting gat if the music compensates. I am also disgusted by the lyrics of Ed Sheeran but that's more of a toe curling reflex. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, coprolite said: I like a lot of hip hop but I get all suburban liberal about women being called bitches. Also there's a fine line between the raw experience of people's lives and gang/poverty porn that makes a lot of gangsta and drill off limits for me. I don't have a consistent moral standard here though and i can overlook excessive "bitch" use or some motherfucker getting gat if the music compensates. I am also disgusted by the lyrics of Ed Sheeran but that's more of a toe curling reflex. I read an article years ago by a guy who founded an American museum about the history of racist tropes. He posited that gangsta rap was essentially the old Buck/Jezebel caricatures updated for the entertainment of modern white audiences. It was a bit uncomfortable and difficult to argue against. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, BFTD said: I read an article years ago by a guy who founded an American museum about the history of racist tropes. He posited that gangsta rap was essentially the old Buck/Jezebel caricatures updated for the entertainment of modern white audiences. It was a bit uncomfortable and difficult to argue against. As Phife dawg says Are you amused by our struggles? The English that’s broken? The weed that I’m smokin’? The guns that I’m totin’? The drugs that I’m sellin’? No need for improvement f**k you and who you think I should be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_oats Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 (edited) On 03/10/2022 at 00:10, BillyAnchor said: Guided by Voices are a group I feel I should like and have tried but just never got it. Neutral Milk Hotel for me. Edited October 4, 2022 by capt_oats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 The Rolling Stones - they must have done something right to still be selling out stadiums while most of their contemporaries are long dead/retired/forgotten, but I tried to listen to one of their albums years ago and did not even make it all the way through one listen. I might try that particular album again. Will let you know how far I make it this time. 2 hours ago, coprolite said: I like a lot of hip hop but I get all suburban liberal about women being called bitches. Also there's a fine line between the raw experience of people's lives and gang/poverty porn that makes a lot of gangsta and drill off limits for me. I don't have a consistent moral standard here though and i can overlook excessive "bitch" use or some motherfucker getting gat if the music compensates. I am also disgusted by the lyrics of Ed Sheeran but that's more of a toe curling reflex. Much of the content of a lot of late 80s/90s hip hop has not aged well at all. Misogynistic and homophobic terms were being thrown around like Berti Vogts era Scotland caps. N.W.A. - considered by many to be one of the greatest ever hip-hop groups - used absolutely terrible language in their songs about women. Eminem - considered by many to be one of the greatest rappers of all time - released numerous derogatory and defamatory songs about various women in his life and was quite fond of throwing the homophobic F-word around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: The Rolling Stones - they must have done something right to still be selling out stadiums while most of their contemporaries are long dead/retired/forgotten, but I tried to listen to one of their albums years ago and did not even make it all the way through one listen. I might try that particular album again. Will let you know how far I make it this time. Much of the content of a lot of late 80s/90s hip hop has not aged well at all. Misogynistic and homophobic terms were being thrown around like Berti Vogts era Scotland caps. N.W.A. - considered by many to be one of the greatest ever hip-hop groups - used absolutely terrible language in their songs about women. Eminem - considered by many to be one of the greatest rappers of all time - released numerous derogatory and defamatory songs about various women in his life and was quite fond of throwing the homophobic F-word around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kersey Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Let's talk about Paul Weller. Clearly a talented musician and song writer, a bit of a style icon and a hero to thousands if not millions of adoring fans... But his tunes are all a bit too "meh"... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, Paul Kersey said: Let's talk about Paul Weller. Clearly a talented musician and song writer, a bit of a style icon and a hero to thousands if not millions of adoring fans... But his tunes are all a bit too "meh"... I liked the early Jam, but it's not stuff I return to very often. His solo stuff is all listenable, but instantly forgettable, very derivative of many others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 On 04/10/2022 at 13:20, capt_oats said: Neutral Milk Hotel for me. Same - folk absolutely rave about them too, but I don't get it. I do like Olivia Tremor Control from the same school - Apples in Stereo not so much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daydream Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 I struggle with metal of any type and any kind of rock with a ‘gonzo’ vibe. AC/DC is, to my ears, just a load of infantile garbage. I do like a huge range of music and love plenty from this thread including Radiohead, Neutral Milk Hotel and Guru, especially Jazzmatazz Vol 1 [emoji3] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Johnny Cash is held up a huge icon but I just find him really dull. Not really a fan of country music in general either. The Sex Pistols were massive for loads of folk but I cannot stand them. I think you 'had to be there' as it were, as it seems they were very much of their time. Most of the similar type of bands from around that time sound absolutely awful to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 On 26/09/2022 at 10:32, TheScarf said: There's this weird sub-genre of hip hop called and Drill and it's fucking horrendous. 19 year old American lads with face tattoos auto-tuned rapping over some utter shite electronic music. I've also discovered most of them don't seem to live past 21 due to drugs or bullets. Oh its big here too. Its funny, theres this ‘group’ from govanhill, signed to warner brothers or something, rapping about shooting and stuff like that and living the thug life, when aye ok its not the most glorious part of Scotland but its not some gangsta paradise with everyone running about ‘busting a cap’ etc. Drill and all that shite is just complete fantasy from people who couldnt fight sleep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 (edited) Cloud Rap/Emo Rap mostly terrible. I consider Bladee and his pals to be the worst artists in the entire history of music including Australopithicus smashing two antelope skulls together. Power metal is terrible but at least can be funny/terrible. Nu Metal is just grim, hollering mediocrity. Most Industrial/Martial music is garbage and the individuals that listen to it are highly suspect. I will accept a few exceptions like Ministry and NIN. Prog Rock is awful as well. King Crimson are pretty much the only 'prog' band I like unless you are sticking groups like Amon Duul II in that bracket (I wouldn't). Pat Nevin won't like this but I'd happily beat Cocteau Twins to death with a golf club. I sure we could bond over other 80's jangle merchants like The Dentists or The Sea Urchins though. Although I'm a big fan of hip hop I'm not a big fan of UK hip hop. There is some good stuff here and there but I'd say it's a good 90% tripe. Edited November 19, 2022 by Ya Bezzer! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The DA Posted December 4, 2022 Share Posted December 4, 2022 On 18/10/2022 at 11:08, DA Baracus said: Johnny Cash is held up a huge icon but I just find him really dull. Not really a fan of country music in general either. You stay the hell away from me, you hear? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyAnchor Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Yeah Yeah Yeahs are another group I can't get into. I like so much of the 2000ish music that they were around but never them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 BTS / K-Pop Red Hot Chill Peppers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Capital Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 I find Merzbow quite a hard listen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) Possibly a controversial one this but The Smiths. Yes I accept Johnny Marr is a superb guitarist but I couldn't get into them at all in the 80s when some of my school mates thought they were the Second Coming and the whole thing left me cold. Some of the supercilious twats who were uberfans combined with that whining voice just turned me off. Contrast that with contemporaries U2, a band I liked a lot at the time. I accept they get a lot of cheap criticism now and Bono is a bit of a knob but there was a reason U2 became massive in the US and the Smiths didn't. U2 took every opportunity presented to them (i.e Live Aid plus other big stadium shows). So when the Americans saw U2 , usually standing on a desert road or playing on a LA rooftop in their MTV rotated videos and doing big tours they fell for them big time. Meanwhile you had Morrissey being awkward, making sneery comments about America and poncing around with a daffodil up his arse. Edited December 8, 2022 by AndyM 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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