Antlion Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Johnny Martin said: If you can find proof that the royal family consider their bloodlines to be superior and purer then I'll happily eat humble pie. I base my thoughts on what they believe on the hereditary bloodline system of nobility they subscribe to and embody, which you’ve just ignored. You seem to base the claim “They don't believe that though..” on nothing, on the other hand. ETA: Unless, that is, you’ve been having cosy tête-à-têtes with the highest tier of the aristocracy which have led you to believe they don’t really believe that hereditary aristocratic bloodlines should perpetuate an upper class. Edited December 5, 2022 by Antlion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Johnny Martin said: The hereditary system that's in place. Do you seriously think they reckon they've got superior, purer blood to the rest of the population? Apologies if you were joking and I've picked you up wrong. Some do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Don't know what all the fuss is about. Clearly, a fine way to put people into a revising chamber of a modern democratic government is to include folk who are senior office-holders in one organisation whose purpose is to maintain and promote belief in the supernatural and the distant descendants of folk who supported a monarch by sending his estate's serfs to fight in wars, or provided the monarch with "personal services" or covered up extra-marital affairs. Or similar. And of course, don't forget some of the other means of securing a seat in the Lords... bunging a few million quid to political parties, losing elections, being the pals of defeated or disposed-of former leaders, etc. All of course ideal qualifications for those to be given political power - and with no upper age limit an appointee can exercise that political power for decades... with no democratic means of removal. Much better than that boring, new fangled "democracy" nonsense. What a country. If only a UK political party with an intention to abolish the House of Lords had ever managed to gain a majority at Westminster over the last say, 112 years... oh, no, wait a minute... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Man 'throws an egg at King Charles' during walkabout before being arrested on suspicion of common assault - exactly one month after the monarch was targeted in similar stunt in York Right, the list of ingredients. Eggs for Chuckles. Milkshakes for Farage. Who gets other stuff? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 23 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Man 'throws an egg at King Charles' during walkabout before being arrested on suspicion of common assault - exactly one month after the monarch was targeted in similar stunt in York Right, the list of ingredients. Eggs for Chuckles. Milkshakes for Farage. Who gets other stuff? Chicken Fillets for Michelle Mone. The blood of tens of thousands of avoidable deaths for Matt Hancock. A fridge full of Tesco Extra wine for Boris. A very dilute lemon squash for Keir. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 A collapsed souffle for Liz Truss. Pork pies for Keith. Cream of Won Yung Boi for a fair few, I'd imagine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, scottsdad said: Man 'throws an egg at King Charles' during walkabout before being arrested on suspicion of common assault - exactly one month after the monarch was targeted in similar stunt in York Right, the list of ingredients. Eggs for Chuckles. Milkshakes for Farage. Who gets other stuff? Pegs for Wills, surely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Cream for the cat in the hat (that's a suggestion rather than an instruction, so don't take it the wrong way) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 That boy Witchell grinds my gears. Quote on the 6pm news: "but the idea that ANYONE was out to destroy her (Markle), frankly I think is absurd ...". He may or may not be right but that's only his fucking opinion. And when you see how some in the media are behaving (especially the right wing nut job element), how the f**k does he know what level of briefing is going on? If we've learned nothing else from the Andrew thing, it's that the media don't go in hard on the Royal Family. There would have been f**k all on the BBC if he himself hadn't made a voluntary rip-roaring c**t of things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Another boring Sussex story.Apparently they are fed up of "press intrusion" - complete nonsense - they are vacuous publicity whores.And why the f**k is this a lead story?The sooner all the Royals f**k off the better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 The whole thing is ideal for a corrupt, incompetent government though, as the media and plebs take their eye off the cuntery of the Tories to complain that that American infiltrator didn't just sit there and take the racist abuse like she should have 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Martin Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 On 05/12/2022 at 19:56, Antlion said: I base my thoughts on what they believe on the hereditary bloodline system of nobility they subscribe to and embody, which you’ve just ignored. You seem to base the claim “They don't believe that though..” on nothing, on the other hand. ETA: Unless, that is, you’ve been having cosy tête-à-têtes with the highest tier of the aristocracy which have led you to believe they don’t really believe that hereditary aristocratic bloodlines should perpetuate an upper class. I ignored nothing. Nobility doesn't equate or even infer superiority. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Johnny Martin said: I ignored nothing. Nobility doesn't equate or even infer superiority. How do you know what the nobility infers about its bloodlines? Are you you a hereditary aristocrat? The dictionary definition of nobility certainly holds that it implies superiority: the nobility [ S, + sing/pl verb ] the people of the highest social rank in a society, considered as a group: Edited December 12, 2022 by Antlion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Martin Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Antlion said: How do you know what the nobility infers about its bloodlines? Are you you a hereditary aristocrat? The dictionary definition of nobility certainly holds that it implies superiority: the nobility [ S, + sing/pl verb ] the people of the highest social rank in a society, considered as a group: No, I'm not a hereditary aristocrat That definition backs up my stance. Zero about superiority, never mind superior bloodlines. The royals are just at the top of a hereditary system. Your claim that they consider themselves to have superior bloodlines to everyone else is just plain false. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, Johnny Martin said: No, I'm not a hereditary aristocrat That definition backs up my stance. Zero about superiority, never mind superior bloodlines. The royals are just at the top of a hereditary system. Your claim that they consider themselves to have superior bloodlines to everyone else is just plain false. Ah, so you’re not one, you don’t know any, and you still feel qualified to speak for them? Odd. A hereditary bloodline which places some people in a higher social rank than others means that those people’s bloodline-derived rank is ostensibly superior to others. Unless you are now pretending to believe that higher social ranks are inferior or equal to lower social ranks in a class system? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Martin Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 19 hours ago, Antlion said: Ah, so you’re not one, you don’t know any, and you still feel qualified to speak for them? Odd. A hereditary bloodline which places some people in a higher social rank than others means that those people’s bloodline-derived rank is ostensibly superior to others. Unless you are now pretending to believe that higher social ranks are inferior or equal to lower social ranks in a class system? I don't feel qualified to speak for them at all. There's just nothing to suggest that they consider themselves as being superior to others or having superior bloodlines to others. It just means they are higher up in the hierarchical system. To answer you - Having a higher social rank in a class system does not make one superior at all, nor does it mean they have a superior bloodline. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, Johnny Martin said: I don't feel qualified to speak for them at all. There's just nothing to suggest that they consider themselves as being superior to others or having superior bloodlines to others. It just means they are higher up in the hierarchical system. To answer you - Having a higher social rank in a class system does not make one superior at all, nor does it mean they have a superior bloodline. It's the literal meaning of the word noble. Now pipe down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Martin Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said: It's the literal meaning of the word noble. Now pipe down. I've already addressed the 'nobility question'. Do keep up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 If you put a silent 'k' at the start of nobility does it change it's meaning? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Soapy FFC said: If you put a silent 'k' at the start of nobility does it change it's meaning? I think that’s what’s meant by the term ‘honourable member’. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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