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Scotland v Ukraine (21st Sep)


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5 minutes ago, BingMcCrosby said:

I'd still be starting adams in the next games, he was unlucky not to score. And his movement and touch were excellent. There really wasn't a bad performance tonight from us.

I was surprised how well Hendry played tbh considering he's not been playing. He was unbeatable tonight.

Depends how you define "bad". I thought Christie completely disappeared in the 45th minute and was next seen when trooping off to be subbed. He wasn't bad as such, just nowhere to be seen. I'd have hooked him long before Armstrong.

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8 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said:

The one position which is a real weakness is the Ryan Christie role. He's been awful for almost 2 years now, continually gives the ball away and has no end product - 1 assist and 0 goals in last 18 appearances. However in fairness to Clarke I couldn't offer a better alternative to play that role given our lack of options so we'll maybe just have to persevere

Sorry, not having the Christie slander.

The guy works his bollocks off every game and covered for Tierney at left back whenever he got caught higher up the pitch.

Aye, his decision making isnt great at times and he should be more of a threat, but he creates a lot of openings for himself and others by being the trigger for the press.

We are a better team with him in it IMO 

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f**k any negativity - that was as good a Scotland pressing performance I have ever seen and right up there with the Denmark game last year.

I was genuinely very very proud of the players tonight, they pressed everything and forced Ukraine into mistake after mistake. And even though some of our finishing was brutal, not a single player gave up. Head up and kept going and going and finally got our rewards. 

Special mention again to the difference Austin MacPhee has made to our set pieces. Unbelievable difference over the last couple of years. Another two goals tonight, would be interested to know how many goals from set plays we have scored since he came on board. 

Catching up on the thread and folk saying at start of second half how boring the game is and how turgid we are to watch - go take a flying f**k. That performance was anything but boring. 

Great performance and especially the never say die effort and commitment every single player showed tonight.

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2 minutes ago, Donathan said:

Hickey was fantastic tonight. I thought he was poor in the playoffs but a couple of months of starting at RB in the EPL has really matured his game. I didn’t notice a drop off at all when Patterson went off. 

He flung a superb low-cross baw in from the left in the first half and you could almost feel Sooberally's frustration that Adams wasn't there to meet it.

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Just now, Skyline Drifter said:

Depends how you define "bad". I thought Christie completely disappeared in the 45th minute and was next seen when trooping off to be subbed. He wasn't bad as such, just nowhere to be seen. I'd have hooked him long before Armstrong.

Yeah its a fair point, he was probably the worst player if you want to go looking for that.

Just to go completely against the we shouldn't be shoehorning in players, id be tempted to play Robertson there in front of Tierney.

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Haven’t read the thread so apologies if it’s already been said numerous times, but Che Adams. Won’t take a lot of credit for tonight - rightly or wrongly - my god does he do a power of work for this team. Takes hit after hit. Wasn’t quite Denmark at home, but f**k me 

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3 minutes ago, Donathan said:

Hickey was fantastic tonight. I thought he was poor in the playoffs but a couple of months of starting at RB in the EPL has really matured his game. I didn’t notice a drop off at all when Patterson went off. 

He was.  I remember noticing Ryan Christie putting on about a stone in muscle and becoming a much more effective player for it.  Hickey seems to have done the same, albeit he was about 12 when I saw him playing regularly for Hearts. 

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1 minute ago, PSJ.84 said:

Haven’t read the thread so apologies if it’s already been said numerous times, but Che Adams. Won’t take a lot of credit for tonight - rightly or wrongly - my god does he do a power of work for this team. Takes hit after hit. Wasn’t quite Denmark at home, but f**k me 

Thought he was excellent. His first touch is a league apart from anyone else in the team.  He’s only going to end up with about ten goals in his Scotland career, but he is a pretty important player nonetheless.   And that nutmeg just before he came off was glorious. 

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Christie is always the spearhead of the press as his energy levels are ridiculous and is always able to put defenders under pressure, which forces them to launch it or possession is turned over. 
 

The ball came to him at 100mph from 10 yards away about 3 times tonight and couldn’t really do anything about it bouncing off him. 

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Just now, Savage Henry said:

Thought he was excellent. His first touch is a league apart from anyone else in the team.  He’s only going to end up with about ten goals in his Scotland career, but he is a pretty important player nonetheless.   And that nutmeg just before he came off was glorious. 

Hes only 26 and has 5 already, if we start playing like that more he will be scoring for us more i think.

I know what you mean tho, hes work rate and touch and ability to lead the line are just as important for us.

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Just now, Savage Henry said:

Thought he was excellent. His first touch is a league apart from anyone else in the team.  He’s only going to end up with about ten goals in his Scotland career, but he is a pretty important player nonetheless.   And that nutmeg just before he came off was glorious. 

I hate to bring it back to club football, and he’s at least twenty times the player, but he reminds me of Chris Kane in the double winning season. Suits this system absolutely perfectly and allows so much to happen behind him. Facilitator. 

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Really enjoyed that. Thought the overall performance was really good from basically every player. Lots of complaints from those watching at home about Armstrong, I thought he was OK, he looked decent enough going forward in the 1st half but was on the opposite side of the pitch second half and apparently it was him that missed a couple of big chances? Sometimes difficult to catch in the stadium. Christie put a monstrous shift in. Despite Big Daddy Dykes coming on and doing the absolute goddamn business, I'd still stick with Adams on Saturday.

How weird a player is McSauce by the way? He constantly goes from doing something that looks world class to doing something absolutely awful. So odd. I am also convinced a couple of his defensive runs in the opening 10 minutes were him doing what he did when he was at RCB and it just coming naturally, he was caught out of position a few times early on where he was tracking back in towards the centre halves then almost trying to make up for it by pushing forward immediately afterwards. 

I said last year I didn't think the back four would work with this squad. Since then I think we have progressed in a couple of areas - I think Patterson is an infinitely better player than he was so we now have a real player in that position, and Hickey coming on was really good as well. I was a huge critic of his after the June match but he looked really good. I also think that McGregor has continued to improve and him and McTominay (who I still am not convinced with as a "defensive" midfielder") link up pretty well in the middle. As someone said above, if we're playing that shape it'll be interesting where Gilmour fits in because he does feel a bit more luxury in a sense.

Anyway, boring myself, just a couple of things from being in the stadium. Scotland fans are fucking morons. Honestly some of the worst shouts on the planet coming from the North stand tonight. The usual "get it forward", "do something with it" to be expected but some folk getting absolutely apoplectic with rage when we pass it more than 5 times and we're not in the opposition box. This was made more hilarious around the 10 minute mark where Ukraine passed the ball what felt like about 50 times over a 2-3 minute phase of play and created a good opportunity. We get the ball back and after 20 seconds of passing "DAE SUMMIN WAE IT". Ridiculous. 

Finally, VAR is fucking shite, and there is absolutely nothing that will convince me otherwise. From my angle at the first goal, basically in line with McGinn's running direction, for all I knew he could have been 5 yards offside. The 2 minutes after the goal with the Ukraine players surrounding the referee and the ref having his hand on his earpiece completely ruins any goal celebration for me. Rubbish.

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6 minutes ago, Savage Henry said:

He was.  I remember noticing Ryan Christie putting on about a stone in muscle and becoming a much more effective player for it.  Hickey seems to have done the same, albeit he was about 12 when I saw him playing regularly for Hearts. 

Yip, I noticed that too. f**k knows what they feed the players down south but they defo bulk them up with muscle. McGregor and Taylor looked like skelfs compared to the rest of the team 😂.

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