The Official Liz Truss no longer PM but still a Clusterfuck thread

[yoda]

20 hours ago, RiG said:

An image search for this brings up the following image which seems pretty apt.

[Granny Danger]

I wonder what the correlation is between the companies that will be granted fracking licences and companies that are Tory donors.

[Jeff Venom]

32 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

I wonder what the correlation is between the companies that will be granted fracking licences and companies that are Tory donors.

I expect a venn diagram which is just one full circle. 

[Leith Green]

Has anyone seen any of the stuff from the select committee when Torsten Bell of the Resolution Foundation was on?

He, yet again, destroyed the Economic "strategy" of the Truss Govt, and - again - nothing he said can really be disputed, esp regarding the comparison on 10 year bond yields UK v US v Germany. i.e. this plan will f**k our economy.

Then I see the NI rise which - when Labour proposed a debate 6 months ago, every Tory MP walked out as it was "essential for the care sector" - is being removed basically because these spunkbubbles want a a fucking soundbite.

Wonder who the NI thing helps? Doesnt really help those low earners - if you earn £20k? you will save £93 per year, whoop de fucking doo................

Then I read the kind of stuff that pot plant JRM has published peeling back decades of laws and rights.

These people are facists.

[doulikefish]

Trickle down first and the word is changes to the benefit system.Cuts to overseas aid and it's house in the gammon bingo card 

 

 

[Granny Danger]

The amount of stuff Truss has done already gives Starmer huge ammunition.  What we’ll get instead is a weak wishy-washy bland boring sleep inducing response.

[Clown Job]

4 hours ago, Jeff Venom said:

I expect a venn diagram which is just one full circle. 

Detour via a tax haven no doubt 

[Frank Quitely]

1 hour ago, Granny Danger said:

The amount of stuff Truss has done already gives Starmer huge ammunition.  What we’ll get instead is a weak wishy-washy bland boring sleep inducing response.

As Alison Rowat suggests here.....

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/22459882.victory-within-keir-starmers-grasp/

[sophia]

10 hours ago, Jeff Venom said:

"People will leave like they did decades ago"

"Like who?"

"Ehh, the rolling stones and other musicians" 

Fucking hell.

He didn't even get that correct.

The Rolling Stones were subject to dirty work by their manager Allen Klein who left them high and dry.

Without the debt he shattered them with, they wouldn't have moved to France.

[Clown Job]

 

[Florentine_Pogen]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/22/tories-usher-in-their-brave-new-world-of-half-arsed-fantasy

"It was left to the business secretary, Jacob Rees-Mogg, to explain the change of heart in answer to an urgent question from the shadow climate change minister, Ed Miliband. The Moggster was in his element. He’s never happier than when indulging his 19th-century fantasies. If he could bring back coal mining he would. Anything to escape from reality.

There was a brief hiatus though, as Rees-Mogg couldn’t find his script. Hardly surprising, as he didn’t seem to have one. All he really had to say was that fracking was back on the agenda whether people liked it or not. Like Librium Liz, he seems to be under the delusion that all you have to do is bore a hole somewhere in an area of outstanding national beauty and you get unlimited supplies of gas. Enough to lower the price to a matter of pennies and end global reliance on Russian gas.

Miliband treated Rees-Mogg as if he was a halfwit. Most people do these days. Long gone are the times when MPs were impressed by his faux politeness and smug self-confidence, squeezed into an oversized undertaker’s suit. Now people see him for the needy fraud that he is............

Give us a break, Rees-Mogg pleaded. “We’ve only been in government for two weeks.” Er, make that 12 years. Besides, he suggested, most of the anti-fracking protests had been funded by Putin. And this coming from someone who was part of a Brexit campaign tainted by Russian influence.

At least there was less revisionism taking place in the health secretary’s statement on her plan for the NHS. Mainly because Librium Liz never had a plan for it in the first place. Other than to make it slightly better than it currently is now. Somehow or other. She’ll be furious when she discovers who has run it into the ground.

But she has at least chosen her new health secretary wisely. Because when you’ve got no ideas, who better than Thérèse Coffey? A woman of no imagination and no great brain. But someone who can be relied to come up with some nonsense on the back of a cigar packet.

Sure enough, Coffey did not disappoint, coming up with – in the absence of a plan – a memory game. A was for Ambulance. B was for Backlog. C was for Care. D was for Doctor. And E was for total fucking Eejit. Poor Thérèse. She didn’t realise how shabby and half-arsed her ideas were."

 

[welshbairn]

A fracker doubts that fracking in the UK would be economically viable. Any decision to promote it over renewables would be on political grounds rather than economic.

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First, just because a resource exists does not mean it’s feasible or economic to extract it. In Lancashire, we learned in 2011 that the shale formations are extremely gassy. They are also heavily faulted and compartmentalised, unlike the generally continuous gas-bearing formations underlying large parts of Pennsylvania, Texas and Alberta.

The second issue is the enormous scale of operations that would be required to replace even 10% of UK natural gas: thousands of wells would need to be completed over the next 30 to 50 years, with the drilling and fracking of hundreds of wells a year. This would mean dozens of rigs and fracking crews in continuous mobilisation across the country. 

Liz Truss, we support fracking too – that’s why we know it can’t work for Britain

[Florentine_Pogen]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/23/liz-truss-power-extreme-neoliberal-thinktanks

"Who chose Liz Truss? Conservative party members, of course. Who are they? Disproportionately rich, white, older men living in the south of England. But there are some members whose profile we have no means of knowing. They don’t live in the UK, have never been residents or citizens here and have no right to vote in our elections. Astonishingly, since 2018 these foreign members have been permitted to determine who the UK prime minister should be.

The Conservative party’s rules of association are an open invitation to anyone who wants to mess with our politics. There seems to be nothing to stop agents of another government from registering as members with Conservatives Abroad. Nor, it seems, is there anything to stop one person (or one botswarm) applying for multiple memberships. So much for the party of patriotism, sovereignty and national security.

This open invitation, to judge from the little information we can glean, has yet to be fully exploited. Perhaps foreign governments haven’t yet realised what a golden opportunity they’ve been given. Perhaps they simply can’t believe how irresponsible the Tories are."

[Hedgecutter]

Liz Truss with a huge f***ing grin on her face as Kwarteng announces that they're abolishing the cap on bankers bonuses.

That'll be good for the next GE.

[Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo]

She should have had a shave this morning.

[williemillersmoustache]

Easy to miss when it's hiding behind all the more money for b*****ds tax cuts but, the sunset clause on all EU regulations by December 23 is probably the most terrifying.  

These fucking clowns, who are unashamedly driving a deregulation agenda will have to replace about 2000 pieces of legislation or they will automatically fall. 

So we need to have faith that they have the time and the competence to make sure they don't accidentally remove our right to annual leave and the already shitey levels of sick pay. Or more likely they let them lapse on purpose because they are c***s. 

[Have some faith in Magic]

Bring back Boris. 

 

This must be the craziest budget in decades. 

[Paco]

That entire thing is genuinely batshit mental. Energy is ultimately the biggest cost, and is a reasonably good move - albeit not as generous as Labour’s plan, which would have cost the average household £500 less per year, and at significantly less cost to the taxpayer into the bargain.

Bankers bonus cap gone? Removal of the 45% tax rate? Dividend tax cut? Bonkers. NI cut and corporation tax halt just puts us back to where we were in March. The change to 19% income tax is useful in terms of putting money in pockets, but at the same time the Bank of England is actively trying to provoke a recession and I’m old enough to remember all the ‘show pay restraint’ comments from the same party in government, where the PM and Chancellor were in the cabinet! But now money in pockets is a great idea.

And this is all against a backdrop of all government departments needing about a 15% increase simply to stand still?

It’s hard to escape the feeling the Tories know they’re fucked at the next election so they’re trying to make things as bad as possible for Labour coming in.

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16 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Easy to miss when it's hiding behind all the more money for b*****ds tax cuts but, the sunset clause on all EU regulations by December 23 is probably the most terrifying.  

These fucking clowns, who are unashamedly driving a deregulation agenda will have to replace about 2000 pieces of legislation or they will automatically fall. 

So we need to have faith that they have the time and the competence to make sure they don't accidentally remove our right to annual leave and the already shitey levels of sick pay. Or more likely they let them lapse on purpose because they are c***s. 

Also presumably this effects all legislation and not just financial regulations. Madness it was slipped into the budget and not made by the PM.

That statement was an utter farce.

[williemillersmoustache]

£45bn of tax cuts, funded by borrowing, announced in a non budget, the largest cut since 1972 (which didn't go well) and without any forecasting. 

We now go live to the cost of government borrowing: