The_Kincardine Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: think followers of diddy sides derive very different things from OF fans, in following their respective clubs. So diddies don't go to/watch game hoping their team wins? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, The_Kincardine said: So diddies don't go to/watch game hoping their team wins? Of course they do. Don't be daft. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Of course they do. Don't be daft. So we're all the same, really. No? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Strangely Black Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 hour ago, The_Kincardine said: So we're all the same, really. No? No. You go to games with the belief that you are entitled to win every game. If you don't, it's a conspiracy/which school did the officials attend?/let's ban all media who report it etc... Petulant spoiled child behaviour. You're particularly fond of trashing the disabled section, even if you win. So we're not all the same, really. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tom Strangely Black said: No. You go to games with the belief that you are entitled to win every game. Silly. I don't and I never have done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamba_trio Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 We need to begin by stopping the snootery in our game. The WE DON'T WANT TO COPY AMERICAN SPORTS BECAUSE THEY'RE AWFUL brigade. We have the worst sports league on the planet. The absolute worst. No other country can claim to be as bad as organising sport as we are. So, let's make some changes... I think we need to do away with promotion and relegation. If we're going to share revenues (which any good sports league does) then there's too many clubs. So we have a top league of 12 or 14 or 16, but that's it. No relegation. Then the clubs have to share revenues. Gate money, prize money, TV money, European money all gets split evenly between every team in the top league. Any club merchandise - half goes to the league to be split. The league would have to be changed to make it more appealing to TV. So every game would be shown live, and there'd be Championship and European Playoffs at the end of the season. Now, rather than having 2 teams with 40 million budgets, we'll have 12 (or 14 or 16) teams with 10 million to spend on players. Crowds go up at all the diddy teams, who now have a chance to not be diddies. Crowds at Celtic and Rangers stay the same, because they're not in any way glory hunters and would watch them regardless. Plus, because they're so well run, they'll still be just as successful. Everybody wins. Yes, I know this was a load of rubbish. But I just moved to Australia and I'm in awe that the main sport - the AFL - is currently negotiating a 3 billion dollar TV deal. For a sport that only runs half the year in a country that isn't that big. They also have free to air games every week too. Anyone in the league has a chance of winning it. When you look at what an awful state the SPFL is in, it's hard not be jealous. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie adie Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 The first thing that needs to change is the desire of clubs for change, and the ending of self interest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girth Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I’ll be starting a fundraiser for all teams outside the old firm. If anyone wants to donate, let me know. Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxo Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 The solution needs to be broader than just Scotland in my opinion - UEFA need to start redirecting a much larger share of European football money to the teams that prop up the big boys. It's not the 40 Scottish diddies that need to get together and demand a more equitable distribution of wealth, it's the hundreds of clubs across Europe who now find themselves looking up at teams with a similar budgetary advantage over them as we see here between provincial clubs and the old firm. For us to do this at a national level would only serve to damage the old firm's opportunities in Europe and therefore it would never be accepted. It's not just Scottish football that needs fixing nowadays though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 18 minutes ago, Girth said: I’ll be starting a fundraiser for all teams outside the old firm. If anyone wants to donate, let me know. Thank you. Hi Deefiant, hiya pal! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 41 minutes ago, Paxo said: The solution needs to be broader than just Scotland in my opinion - UEFA need to start redirecting a much larger share of European football money to the teams that prop up the big boys. It's not the 40 Scottish diddies that need to get together and demand a more equitable distribution of wealth, it's the hundreds of clubs across Europe who now find themselves looking up at teams with a similar budgetary advantage over them as we see here between provincial clubs and the old firm. For us to do this at a national level would only serve to damage the old firm's opportunities in Europe and therefore it would never be accepted. It's not just Scottish football that needs fixing nowadays though. We should maybe all break away to a European Not-So-Superleague. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxo Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 41 minutes ago, johnnydun said: We should maybe all break away to a European Not-So-Superleague. You jest obviously, but you've touched on the big risk with the smaller clubs demanding a bigger slice of the pie - breakaway competitions. If there's to be a more equitable carve up, then the fans of Rangers, Celtic, Liverpool, Real Madrid etc. need to be on board as they're the only ones who could stop the big club owners from simply taking their teams, and their financial value, away. Any solution needs to have the fans of all teams on board. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Sevco and Celtic are provincial teams. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Sevco and Celtic are provincial teams. So is your mentality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 15 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: So is your mentality. Good one, Willy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paxo Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 27 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: Sevco and Celtic are provincial teams. Absolutely. They don't want to be left even further behind the bigger European clubs in the same way we don't want to be left behind them. The equity needs to work on all levels all the way to the top, because at the end of the day, every team contributes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 39 minutes ago, Paxo said: You jest obviously Do I? Who doesn't want to see The Arabs play AZ 4 times a season? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 24 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: Good one, Willy. Hes a child playing red dotting games M8. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squonk Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 The Celtic fans on various threads seem to be all over the place when it comes to the importance of money in determining success. On the one hand they claim that astute managers, wise purchases, good tactics, but most of all, really, really, really trying hard is all that's required for the lesser clubs to raise their game and challenge the big two. On the other hand, they claim that the now defunct original Rangers gained an advantage during a decade-long EBT-fuelled period of success by fielding players they couldn't have afforded without cheating financially. Make your feckin minds up! Also, supporters of the big two seem to be dismissive of the relevance of the massive financial disparity between themselves and the lesser clubs, while themselves aspiring to sit at the top table and participating in a European Super League type set up, but not having the financial clout to compete with Europe's elite clubs. They are entirely unaware that they'd struggle to merit a place in the tenth tier of such a set up, far less the elite pinnacle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 On 26/08/2022 at 21:15, DA Baracus said: Lots of folk mentioning 'ambition' here. What makes a club more 'ambitous' than another? Are there clubs who are not 'ambitious'? Money 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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