welshbairn Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) Think my favourite was Shame, a satire on Pakistan history and politics. P.S. "The Persian translation received an award from an official jury appointed by a ministry of the Iranian Islamic government." Edited August 13, 2022 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 Guardian :- Rushdie on ventilator and may lose an eye, agent says Salman Rushdie is on a ventilator, unable to speak, and may lose an eye, his agent told Reuters and the New York Times. “The news is not good,” Andrew Wylie, Rushdie’s agent, said Friday evening. “Salman will likely lose one eye; the nerves in his arm were severed; and his liver was stabbed and damaged.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 8 hours ago, Detournement said: Just small things like depicting Mohammed lying about the Angel Gabriel dictating the Koran to him, making Mohammed a paedo with a harem of prostitute wives and referring to him as Mahound throughout which is derogatory name used by medieval Christian writers during the Crusades implying that Mohammed was an . It's a terrible novel, the parts set in 1980s London are cringeworthy. Oh, well that's different. Absolutely deserves to be murdered for that. </sarcasm> Grow up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 6 hours ago, VincentGuerin said: Rushdie is an immensely talented, thoughtful man who has produced some marvelous work and contributed positively to global political, philosophical, and cultural discourse. He's got a bit of a funny face as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said: He's got a bit of a funny face as well. He has now by the sound of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) The fictional character of Mohammad was a nonce was he not? In the book he married a 9 year old girl. That's pretty noncey. Edited August 13, 2022 by DA Baracus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 10 hours ago, The Skelpit Lug said: Midnight's Children, as @The Other Foot has just mentioned, is one of the greats of literature. 10 hours ago, Barry Ferguson's Hat said: But Detournment said they're shite. Who to believe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 6 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: The fictional character of Mohammad was a nonce was he not? In the book he married a 9 year old girl. That's pretty noncey. Yeah but the bits in London are cringy so you know, stabby stabby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: The fictional character of Mohammad was a nonce was he not? In the book he married a 9 year old girl. That's pretty noncey. Muhammad is widely accepted to have been a real person. Agreed on the other points though, although there is some belief amongst modern scholars that she was 13, which apparently changes stuff. So in short: Muhammad was real, but he was a nonce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Fatwah incoming for P@B reading this thread 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Fatwah incoming for P@B reading this thread We'll set waffenthinmint on them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 11 hours ago, The Other Foot said: Both the Satanic Verses and Midnight’s Children could be considered the best pieces of literature written in the latter half of the twentieth century. Phenomenal books, from a phenomenal craftsman. In addition, the angry chav who thinks he can go and stab him fifteen times just because he feels offended, has just ensured the author’s lasting legacy and undoubtedly boosted his book sales by a shitload. 11 hours ago, The Skelpit Lug said: Midnight's Children, as @The Other Foot has just mentioned, is one of the greats of literature. Midnight's Children is a good book but it's a blatant rip off Gunter Grass's The Tin Drum and not at all in the same league as it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, Detournement said: Midnight's Children is a good book but it's a blatant rip off Gunter Grass's The Tin Drum and not at all in the same league as it. Why have none of them been on the telly if they're that good? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 24 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Fatwah incoming for P@B reading this thread Fatty Fatwah 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Why have none of them been on the telly if they're that good? Midnights Children was actually on BBC 4 the other night. But it clashed with The 1000lb Sisters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Hitmen must be a bit pish if the Fatwa was issued in 1989. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, Detournement said: Midnight's Children is a good book but it's a blatant rip off Gunter Grass's The Tin Drum and not at all in the same league as it. Outrageous! It's not a blatant rip-off at all. Rushdie was very quick to acknowledge the importance of Grass's novel, though. But there is a more obvious German connection, as art critic Franz Roh was influential (along with Cuban writer Alejo Carpentier) in developing the idea of magical realism. The idea took off most notably in Latin America literature from about 1930s so maybe both novels owe more to the incredible works of Central/South American writers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Venti said: Hitmen must be a bit pish if the Fatwa was issued in 1989. The best get the job done when the target least expects it, and have lowered their guard 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Just now, Mark Connolly said: The best get the job done when the target least expects it, and have lowered their guard Remember me not to get on your bad side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Muhammad is widely accepted to have been a real person. Agreed on the other points though, although there is some belief amongst modern scholars that she was 13, which apparently changes stuff. So in short: Muhammad was real, but he was a nonce 42 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Muhammad is widely accepted to have been a real person. Agreed on the other points though, although there is some belief amongst modern scholars that she was 13, which apparently changes stuff. So in short: Muhammad was real, but he was a nonce He is both real and fictional isn’t he?Depends what you mean by “mohammed”. There was probably a guy called Mohammed who was a leader of a faction or tribe out of Arabia. There’s little evidence supporting lots of the things he’s supposed to have done. Like many contemporary religious stories there’s probably a blend of real events and complete fantasy. Eg St Columba probably did go to visit the King of the Picts but probably didn’t encounter the Loch Ness monster. ”James Bond” was a real historical person. There’s little supporting evidence of him fighting a man with metal teeth in the middle of a laser battle in a space station. I do accept that there’s more reliable evidence for Mohammed and his military adventures than there is for Jesus and his seditious magic tricks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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