Who will be the next permanent manager of the Conservatives?

[BFTD]

Rees-Mogg has definitely been mocked mercilessly by those in the Civil Service, possibly directly to his face. At the very least, he's aware that it's been happening, and they're all going to pay, just like the rough boys from the local comprehensive who were so mean to him all those years ago.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

JRM is still obsessed with that time he went into an office and everyone was working from home  isn't he? A weird thing to get completely rattled about. 
I don't have flexitime in the same sense I did when I was in the Civil Service, but do have some flexibility to vary my start/end time, which is very useful on the two days I'm in the office as I can miss the worst of the traffic. 
Anyway, if you start messing about with flexi then people will just leave. It's one of the key benefits of the civil service, albeit you lose this benefit at the senior grades. 

JRM wants you to work 17-hour days with time off limited to church on Sunday morning and one afternoon a week like they did in the 18th century.

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

He's obviously seething that the street urchin who cleans his chimney didn't turn up until 9.05am one morning.

[Clown Job]

I’m just waiting for them to suggest the return of Workhouses 

[Fullerene]

1 hour ago, BFTD said:

Rees-Mogg has definitely been mocked mercilessly by those in the Civil Service, possibly directly to his face. At the very least, he's aware that it's been happening, and they're all going to pay, just like the rough boys from the local comprehensive who were so mean to him all those years ago.

He is probably aware they are sniggering when he talks to them on the phone. 

Obviously a Teams meeting would help but in this country that is not the way we do things (except we do).

[scottsdad]

When I was in the civil service we had flexitime. Core hours of 10-4 and you could work around that. Most folk tried to build up their hours to get the odd day off. Everyone was happy with it. 

Then I came to academic and, until the pandemic, nobody gave a shit when (or if) I was in or not. So long as I delivered my teaching and research I could work when I liked. I knew a lecturer when I was a student who worked from 5pm to 1am when not teaching. 

But Covid has killed it. Thanks to Teams, there are now many more meetings than before that would not have happened in the past, and these all take place during normal working hours. And there is an expectation that folk are at their computers during the day. 

[Granny Danger]

We can all laugh about Mogg but he’s a c**t to the core and if he died a horrible, painful death tomorrow it would be a cause for celebration.

[Salvo Montalbano]

2 hours ago, ICTChris said:

On the plus side, JRM will be out of office in about a month so this 'review' will never happen, as I'm sure he knows, the people who are doing the review will know, the people being reviewed will know.

Don't think he'll be out of office - wasn't he an early Truss supporter?

[DrewDon]

It is just such a no-brainer for the government to have flexitime for civil servants. It essentially allows them to allocate more work than it is possible for one person to deliver across the course of their working week, but to still deny paid overtime in the vast majority of circumstances because the option to build flexitime is there. You also have some departments, I think, where your flexitime 'refreshes' at the start of each month, so I would imagine there are cases where people just do not have the option to take it all and essentially lose that time, although thankfully I have never experienced that in any of my teams to date. 

It was especially useful for me at the peak of the pandemic, because I would have some days where I would be online for eleven or twelve hours. Then, on days and weeks when things were a bit quieter, I would be able to take this time back anyway. As such, I didn't actually mind doing the long days occasionally because I knew I would just be able to claim the time back eventually. 

Rees-Mogg is an oddball and actually just a fundamentally spiteful person, and demonstrably nowhere near as intelligent as he or some others seem to think he is. 

[Father Ted]

6 hours ago, williemillersmoustache said:

South Britain going radio rental over a MAJAORINTERVENTIONFROMGORDONBROWN neatly showing how the non tory bits of Englandshire are just as divorced from the views of Scotland as the raspers rasping away over Rishi or Lizzy.

I've got no idea why they keep bringing out this serial failure as some sort of sage 

Sold our gold at lower price ever, dealers still refer to it as Brown's bottom.

Deregulated gambling and casinos.

Sold all our pension pot.

Has all the charisma of a bag of gravel.

Get him to f**k.

 

[williemillersmoustache]

41 minutes ago, Father Ted said:

I've got no idea why they keep bringing out this serial failure as some sort of sage 

Sold our gold at lower price ever, dealers still refer to it as Brown's bottom.

Deregulated gambling and casinos.

Sold all our pension pot.

Has all the charisma of a bag of gravel.

Get him to f**k.

 

Because in comparison to what came after, he's Ghandi, George Washington and Alex Ferguson reincarnated in one blind overweight Fifer's body. Also, while they'll never be so overt about its, much of "reasonable Englandshire" approve as wholeheartedly of his performance fucking over Scotland in 2014 as the frothers on the right. 

[scottsdad]

1 hour ago, DrewDon said:

It is just such a no-brainer for the government to have flexitime for civil servants. It essentially allows them to allocate more work than it is possible for one person to deliver across the course of their working week, but to still deny paid overtime in the vast majority of circumstances because the option to build flexitime is there. You also have some departments, I think, where your flexitime 'refreshes' at the start of each month, so I would imagine there are cases where people just do not have the option to take it all and essentially lose that time, although thankfully I have never experienced that in any of my teams to date. 

It was especially useful for me at the peak of the pandemic, because I would have some days where I would be online for eleven or twelve hours. Then, on days and weeks when things were a bit quieter, I would be able to take this time back anyway. As such, I didn't actually mind doing the long days occasionally because I knew I would just be able to claim the time back eventually. 

Rees-Mogg is an oddball and actually just a fundamentally spiteful person, and demonstrably nowhere near as intelligent as he or some others seem to think he is. 

The other thing to remember is that in the civil service year there are peaks of business and troughs when it is quiet. That way, you get staff when you need them (say, end of the financial year) and they can take a bit of time off when it is quiet (during the summer; the week between Christmas and New Year)

[scottsdad]

1 hour ago, Father Ted said:

I've got no idea why they keep bringing out this serial failure as some sort of sage 

Sold our gold at lower price ever, dealers still refer to it as Brown's bottom.

Deregulated gambling and casinos.

Sold all our pension pot.

Has all the charisma of a bag of gravel.

Get him to f**k.

 

I accidentally red-dotted this and don't know how to undo it. I generally don't red dot except for in extreme cases (racism, homophobia, etc) - my apologies. 

I disagree on Brown's overall record.

[Theyellowbox]

We can question Brown's achievements, but what is beyond doubt is that his motivation was in a completely different level to the current government. To Johnson, JRM etc, it is all a game. So long as they win, to hell with the consequences. If they lose, then so what, they have plenty of cash and opportunities to keep them going. When we, the general public lose, we are fecked.

For Brown, he understands this and while I dare say he is now personally very well off, he knows that the cost of living crisis will sink a great number of people. He knew/knows that it is the government's responsibility to do the right thing. On a great number of things, the government's he was part of, or led got things wrong, but in my opinion, for what they thought was the right reasons.

 

[williemillersmoustache]

Who could possibly forget Brown and his tribe terrifying pensioners and being the Tories bagmen for the right reasons? Why, beatification cannot be far away for this towering hero of the working man. 

[scottsdad]

9 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Who could possibly forget Brown and his tribe terrifying pensioners and being the Tories bagmen for the right reasons? Why, beatification cannot be far away for this towering hero of the working man. 

True. That and his claims that cross-border blood and organ donations would stop if Scotland went independent - which was shown to be utter lies. 

But at the same time he did more to alleviate poverty in Britain than anyone else in my lifetime. Plus he cancelled loads of third world debt and tripled the development budget. Brought in the very first climate change act. 

As PM he made one big mistake - he shat it out of a general election in 2007. He would probably have won that and been in power until 2012. Instead the financial crisis came along and swept him away. 

[Antlion]

12 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said:

Who could possibly forget Brown and his tribe terrifying pensioners and being the Tories bagmen for the right reasons? Why, beatification cannot be far away for this towering hero of the working man. 

I suppose he also claimed that sick and dying children would be denied treatment if Scotland voted for independence (a lie Great Ormond Street swiftly issued a statement denying) for the right reasons. He’s a sick b*****d. For that alone he should have been disgraced and shamed by every media body in the UK. Instead, they’re still eager to fluff him and wheel him on set whenever a money shot is required.

[williemillersmoustache]

11 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

True. That and his claims that cross-border blood and organ donations would stop if Scotland went independent - which was shown to be utter lies. 

But at the same time he did more to alleviate poverty in Britain than anyone else in my lifetime. Plus he cancelled loads of third world debt and tripled the development budget. Brought in the very first climate change act. 

As PM he made one big mistake - he shat it out of a general election in 2007. He would probably have won that and been in power until 2012. Instead the financial crisis came along and swept him away. 

Chasing his arse up and down the country to apologise to a racist old bag did so much damage, validating the position that the EU foreigners fixing your plumbing and working in the NHS were in fact stealing your kids music lessons and stopping you from seeing a dentist. For that alone he should be thrown into fucking space. The coward. 

 

ETA I take your point about the good he did it's just you only have to be a tory hoor, or racist agitator once, to be condemned for all eternity, in my view. 

Edited August 8, 2022 by williemillersmoustache

[HTG]

Rees Mogg is among the UK's top 30 absolute c***s.

[Miguel Sanchez]

10:30

I'm going to sound very blue tick twitter here but I am quite insistent that the world ended when Charlie Brooker stopped doing year-end wipes in 2016 and I don't recognise anything that's happened since as actual history.