Who will be the next permanent manager of the Conservatives?

[scottsdad]

1 minute ago, doulikefish said:

Truss is the Erg face in this run off they just want someone easy to control...truss is perfect and the erg mob will soon whip the rest of the mps into line of course there will always be the odd one but they will fall into line much like Truss herself has done 

I reckon the ERG in the Tories is like the lefties in the Labour parliamentary party - lots of noise and creating a lot of fear, but in reality still a fairly small minority. 

[Fullerene]

32 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

It'll be interesting if the members vote for Truss. there are 2 precedents that I can see. 

First, in 2001, they elected Iain Duncan Smith over Ken Clarke. Clarke would have brought them back into contention as a serious political force but they went for ideological purity over Europe. 

Second, Corbyn. If Truss wins she will have the backing of the members of the party, but barely 30% of the parliamentary party backed her for leader. Will she face the same issues Corbyn did?

Tory MPs indicated that they would prefer Sunak over Truss - not that they were totally against her.

By contrast, Labour MPs gave Corbyn a vote of no confidence indicating they would prefer almost anyone other than Corbyn.

[ICTJohnboy]

40 minutes ago, Left Back said:

Not sure that's true.  Thought I'd read that he wasn't eligible to stand under Tory party rules because he'd resigned.

 

He'll have changed these rules by now!

[Granny Danger]

3 minutes ago, Fullerene said:

Tory MPs indicated that they would prefer Sunak over Truss - not that they were totally against her.

By contrast, Labour MPs gave Corbyn a vote of no confidence indicating they would prefer almost anyone other than Corbyn.

Aye, Corbyn made the mistake of trying to be a socialist leader of a nominally socialist party whose elected MPs disdain socialism and are career wankstains.

 

[Granny Danger]

9 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

I reckon the ERG in the Tories is like the lefties in the Labour parliamentary party - lots of noise and creating a lot of fear, but in reality still a fairly small minority. 

Imagine having the temerity to be a ‘leftie’ Labour MP!

[Granny Danger]

54 minutes ago, Michael W said:

Always a good laugh when idiots like Dan Wootton fail to realise that the public don't elect Prime Ministers. They are instead appointed based on the party winning the most seats.

If the PM cannot command the confidence of Parliament, he's out. If he cannot command the confidence of his own governing party, then he's out as well. Johnson of course failed at the latter, which is the easier of the two to fulfill.

This stuff peddled about Boris Johnson's 'mandate' is fantasy stuff. He has no personal mandate and he can be removed if he can't command the confidence of Parliament/his government. The party that won a majority does not have confidence in him to lead the country. 

As far as the laughable line that Tory members must be given a vote on Johnson remaining PM goes, he was free to stand in the leadership contest. He chose not to. 

 

In fairness the public really don’t understand the process either.

There may be flaws in both the U.K., and to a lesser degree, Scottishsystems but they are both still preferable to a Presidential style of election.

[scottsdad]

5 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Aye, Corbyn made the mistake of trying to be a socialist leader of a nominally socialist party whose elected MPs disdain socialism and are career wankstains.

 

They could never follow someone with these pint-pouring skills. 

Just woeful.

[Boo Khaki]

That's Coors Light though, and if they way to stop people drinking it is to hand them a glass of foam, then that's definitely a good thing.

[carpetmonster]

2 hours ago, Billy Jean King said:

A baw hair away from calling for a full on Trump storming of parliament. What an absolute joke but that seems to sum up what the right wing media in the UK are being reduced to. Interesting that Sky ditched Fox but still carry Fox lite in the shape of GBN.

Fox is evil with production values. GBN is more like Mike Lindell’s channel except Mike Lindell can sometimes be unintentionally funny 

 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Calling everybody a misogynist is his new thing, after the lady pornographers he works for explained the term to him.
Can't wait for the next episode of OakEnders. Whatever will be next.

They were pulling the mansplaining shite in the Mail/Express this morning.

[Blue Brazil Forever]

7 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said:

I mean come on.  Seriously? I know that the Westminster system is more fu(#ed than a very, very fu(#ed thing, but surely even the Tories would realise that while BoJo's return might be popular with the gammonati, it would be electoral suicide in the country as a whole. 

On the plus side, it would be absolutely hilarious watching the Scottish Tories try to decide what their position was. Dross would probably try to navigate a neutral stance, given that it appears to be his position that the overriding duty of the Scottish leader to work with whoever the national leader happens to be regardless of minor, boring, considerations like policy, even when it comes to the consequences for Scotland. 

What on earth is gammonati? Sounds pure wokery!

[TONTROOPER]

4 minutes ago, Blue Brazil Forever said:

What on earth is gammonati? Sounds pure wokery!

Contact the literati over on WoS where they will be only too pleased to  furnish you with a fully updated list of all  current colloquialisms .

[welshbairn]

Someone just showed Truss a picture of her soul.

 

[williemillersmoustache]

Hope everyone is OK but this leadership contest in a nutshell, much. 

[Boo Khaki]

1 minute ago, oaksoft said:

Sounds like the presenter has collapsed in the studio during the debate.

No fucking wonder. I quite often buckle listening to Truss anaw.

[TxRover]

11 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Someone just showed Truss a picture of her soul.

 

 

3 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

Sounds like the presenter has collapsed in the studio during the debate.

Genuinely hoping that means Piers collapsed…no, it’s not nice, but neither is he.

[Bully Wee Villa]

Kate McCann fainted and collapsed.

[Granny Danger]

27 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said:

Kate McCann fainted and collapsed.

Have they finally found Madeleine?

[BFTD]

1 hour ago, Granny Danger said:

Have they finally found Madeleine?

Aye, I'm sure I won't be the only person to read "Kate McCann collapses at Conservative leadership debate" and wonder if the Mandela Effect's kicking in.

[O'Kelly Isley III]

So who will be the first candidate to ingratiate themselves with the Lionesses ahead of Sunday ?