CountyFan Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 So are we expecting any last minute, left-field transfers today? I wonder if we might dip into the loan market, that's normally where the movement is on deadline day. A young, hungry striker from down South somewhere sounds good to me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebonce Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 This window has been mental. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkboy Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 The Jailender on Twitter with a scary one "Also hearing today that Ross County's Mihael Kovacevic is rumoured to have signed a pre-contract agreement with Hibernian" If it's true what the hell are the club doing not having started these negotiations for at least another year by now. I realise you don't want to risk having SPL wages in the First Division, but it's looked clear that Dundee were heading down by the end of November, they had a month before PCA's could be negotiated. Losing Kova & Brittain is just disappointing. Signing fancy Serbians & Germans & Swiss & Greek lads is fine & all but I don't know why we can't do more to keep some of the folk already at the club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 The Jailender on Twitter with a scary one "Also hearing today that Ross County's Mihael Kovacevic is rumoured to have signed a pre-contract agreement with Hibernian" If it's true what the hell are the club doing not having started these negotiations for at least another year by now. I realise you don't want to risk having SPL wages in the First Division, but it's looked clear that Dundee were heading down by the end of November, they had a month before PCA's could be negotiated. Losing Kova & Brittain is just disappointing. Signing fancy Serbians & Germans & Swiss & Greek lads is fine & all but I don't know why we can't do more to keep some of the folk already at the club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 Assuming all business has been done, this is how the squad looks for the rest of the season: Goalkeepers Mark Brown Michael Fraser Defenders Mihael Kovacevic Andre Hainault Scott Boyd Grant Munro Branislav Micic Evangelos Ikonomou Midfielders Ivan Sproule Richard Brittain Rocco Quinn Paul Lawson Stuart Kettlewell Mark Fotheringham Martin Scott Iain Vigurs Alex Cooper Strikers Sam Morrow Gary Glen Steffen Wohlfarth Steven Ross And the usual under-20s that appear on the bench: MacPhee and Dingwall The team still looks weak up front so fingers crossed that the guy from Grasshoppers gets confirmed before the window shuts. That winger from Charlton wouldn't be bad either, even if it is just for the numbers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkboy Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I'm a football fan. It's my job to panic & over-react with a complete disregard for rational thought! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 The team still looks weak up front so fingers crossed that the guy from Grasshoppers gets confirmed before the window shuts. That winger from Charlton wouldn't be bad either, even if it is just for the numbers. As I said in another thread, we only had one more move lined up for today for a striker but it fell through this morning due to failing to get international clearance in time. Anything else that happens now is a last minute deal, and perhaps a panic buy/loan. I wouldn't get too excited. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staggy4life Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 (edited) We've done well this transfer window by punting all the fringe players and adding 5 new ones. Ikonomou and Sproule the stand outs so far. Would have liked one more striker though! In Ivan Sproule (Hibs) Evangelos Ikonomou (Atromitos) Andre Hainault (Houston Dynamo) Steffan Wohlfarth (SV Wehen) Branislav Mcic (Sion) Out Russell Duncan (Brora Rangers) Joe Malin (Elgin City) Steven Craig (Partick Thistle) Colin Mcmenamin (Greenock Morton) Kurtis Byrne (Dundalk) Mark Corcoran (Stenhousemuir) Marc Fitzpatrick Jon Bateson Ross Tokely Edited January 31, 2013 by staggy4life 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I'm a football fan. It's my job to panic & over-react with a complete disregard for rational thought! Try not to worry too much. Remember last January when Boyd and Vigurs both signed PCA's? Rumours spread far too easily these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazwesty89 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Lucky it's still there... John McGregor and Roy Bremner decided to have a wee game with it before giving it out. In hospitality as well, safe to say neither will be getting a game anytime soon! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Is it not the case that PCAs are very hard to legitimately make a "rumour" out of? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Is it not the case that PCAs are very hard to legitimately make a "rumour" out of? I don't know, I've never tried making rumours unlike some 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebonce Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) While negotiations are taking place, no-one needs to know but the player and the other club. The current employer doesn't need to give permission or consent, that's the premise of the Bosman ruling in the first place. When the deal is done that is when the player tells everyone. The rules in the latest Football Manager game suggest that a PCA signed for another club within the same country within the UK allows for the PCA to only be signed a month before the end of the current contract, but six months for cross-border. If correct, that would mean Brittain couldn't sign a PCA with six months to go! I don't think that can be correct. Edited February 1, 2013 by bunglebonce 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 While negotiations are taking place, no-one needs to know but the player and the other club. The current employer doesn't need to give permission or consent, that's the premise of the Bosman ruling in the first place. When the deal is done that is when the player tells everyone. The rules in the latest Football Manager game suggest that a PCA signed for another club within the same country within the UK allows for the PCA to only be signed a month before the end of the current contract, but six months for cross-border. If correct, that would mean Brittain couldn't sign a PCA with six months to go! I don't think that can be correct. That was kind of my point. It's why PCA rumours aren't the way to go on, say, Sky Sports or BBC rumours pages. You are much better off going with, oh, Jamie Ness or Momo Sylla. :wink: Once it's been signed the player needs to inform his employers. Our Swiss adonis, as opposed to our Greek, Canadian or German adoniseseses, is going nowhere. I actually think he's a terrific player that we would be well advised to sign up though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I think we're all kinda on the same wavelength. The point I was alluding to is that there's no point buying into the rumour that Kova's signed a PCA when there's been absolutely no announcement from anyone. Best not to panic and just wait and see. With regards the 1 month PCA rule, I think that's something that applies to England, not to Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountyFan Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I would like to echo the sentiments of others though. It's all well and good signing new players and cutting the dead weight (although I thought fitz could still do a job for us) but at some point we need to start looking after our own. Having to build an entirely new squad in the summer does not bode well for next year, just look at QPR and other clusterfuck organisations like them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spain Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 My favourite thing about this thread now is that because of the new forum layout and that yoda started the thread, each page is accompanied by a picture of Wohlfarth downing 2 litres of beer... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 (edited) I spent a lecture today counting the bookings for each player Quinn = 7 yellow cards (has already served 1 suspension) Vigurs = 6 yellow cards (needs to serve 1 suspension after yellow vs Hibs) Boyd = 5 yellow cards Kettlewell = 5 yellow cards Munro = 4 yellow cards Brittain = 4 yellow cards Fotheringham = 4 yellows cards Kovacevic = 3 yellow cards Okonomou = 1 yellow card Scott = 1 yellow card Cooper = 1 yellow card I used the SPL website rather than the sometimes unreliable BBC. Edited February 1, 2013 by yoda 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebonce Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I spent a lecture today counting the bookings for each player Quinn = 7 yellow cards (has already served 1 suspension) Vigurs = 6 yellow cards (needs to serve 1 suspension after yellow vs Hibs) Boyd = 5 yellow cards Kettlewell = 5 yellow cards Munro = 4 yellow cards Brittain = 4 yellow cards Fotheringham = 4 yellows cards Kovacevic = 3 yellow cards Okonomou = 1 yellow card Scott = 1 yellow card Cooper = 1 yellow card I used the SPL website rather than the sometimes unreliable BBC. So when will Vigurs serve the suspension, against Dundee? Spot on re: BBC. I got berated by a Thistle fan on Twitter for suggesting they had the second worst disciplinary record in the SFL, when they were third - I used the Beeb for some red card counts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Westander of County Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Regarding Forwards and whether we have enough of them, I'd count Sproule as a Forward. In the Second half on Wednesday he was playing alongside or further forward than Fans Favourite Morrow for at least a while (by my watch). He can finish. We have Ross, Glenn, FF Morrow, WoolFart & Sproule. None too shabby. Cooper Vigurs, Quinn and even Brittain are good in Really Quite Forward roles too. If we had any more Forwards, at least 1 or 2 of them would rarely / never get a game. So we're no better off. Players, especially Forwards, need to get a decent run of appearances to be at their best. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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