Homer Thompson Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 hours ago, LeodhasXD said: Sounds like Musk's API changes have claimed another victim. No, the API looks ok ... for now! Theres a job that runs on the server that posts the updates from the website to social media. For some reason, it wasnt running properly last night 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeodhasXD Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 6 minutes ago, Homer Thompson said: No, the API looks ok ... for now! Theres a job that runs on the server that posts the updates from the website to social media. For some reason, it wasnt running properly last night I just want to hate on Elon okay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 58 minutes ago, Otis Blue said: Yeah, after Dabrowski last night Harry Cochrane was our next best player - really good shift from Harry, a clever player. I think Harry's limitations are that he's obviously injury prone and he's also liable to make challenges/fouls and get yellow cards in situations where he doesn't need to make those challenges - but that side could be coached. Hope he prospers with us under Bartley's coaching. I've maintained in all his time with us that there is a player in Cochrane. It's just finding out what he is best at and utilising it. Hopefully Bartley finds it. The early signs seem promising. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwithnoball Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 31 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: I've maintained in all his time with us that there is a player in Cochrane. It's just finding out what he is best at and utilising it. Hopefully Bartley finds it. The early signs seem promising. Agreed but he is definitely better holding in midfield but Wilson is better option. Both have poor injury records though so worth keeping both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) 4 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: In other news interesting to see that Ewan Bange, who has joined Radcliffe on loan from Blackpool for the 2nd half of the season, was left on the bench last night to accommodate the surprise signing of David Goodwillie, which was not forward announced. Goodwillie duly scored a hat trick on his debut in a 4-2 win and then was sacked this morning when the protests started! It would appear even the 7th tier of English football isn't far enough for him to go to calm things down. Hard to see how he can play at any professional level again in the UK at least. Blackpool released him. So it was a permanent move for Bange. Crazy that clubs still sign Goodwillie. Edited February 8 by Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 1 hour ago, Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army said: Blackpool released him. So it was a permanent move for Bange. Crazy that clubs still sign Goodwillie. Ah, wasn't aware, thanks. I spoke to Dobs a couple of weeks ago and he said he was going back out on loan, I didn't notice it ended up being a permanent move instead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 2 hours ago, Skyline Drifter said: Ah, wasn't aware, thanks. I spoke to Dobs a couple of weeks ago and he said he was going back out on loan, I didn't notice it ended up being a permanent move instead. Quite a drop in divisions. Didn't see enough to say whether he was good and/or had potential but was still fairly young. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DoonhamerDon Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Another decent break before the next league game. I've been trying to work out what might be needed to squeeze into that last play-off spot. Typically you are looking at 50-60 points for 4th, the higher end of that when the league has a couple of teams really cut off at the bottom like this year. PPG that is about 1.5/1.6 and we are running at 1.33 at the moment. 12 games left and you're looking at minimum 6 wins, more likely 8 or 9. As I've said a step too far IMO but you never know. Just want to get to a stage of having some optimism for next season that isn't shown to be massively misplaced by September. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 14 hours ago, DoonhamerDon said: Another decent break before the next league game. I've been trying to work out what might be needed to squeeze into that last play-off spot. Typically you are looking at 50-60 points for 4th, the higher end of that when the league has a couple of teams really cut off at the bottom like this year. PPG that is about 1.5/1.6 and we are running at 1.33 at the moment. 12 games left and you're looking at minimum 6 wins, more likely 8 or 9. As I've said a step too far IMO but you never know. Just want to get to a stage of having some optimism for next season that isn't shown to be massively misplaced by September. Yes, can't argue with that analysis. The top two places are gone, so the battle now will be for places 3 and 4, and as you point out it will be a long shot for Queens to get there. In particular we would need to win our games against Airdrie, Alloa (good luck with that eh?) and Montrose - so a big improvement would be required. Even if we don't make it, the key is to be winning a few of these games, start playing well and having a basis of some key players who will form the core of our squad for next season so that we go into next season with some positivity for a change. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 15 hours ago, DoonhamerDon said: Another decent break before the next league game. I've been trying to work out what might be needed to squeeze into that last play-off spot. Typically you are looking at 50-60 points for 4th, the higher end of that when the league has a couple of teams really cut off at the bottom like this year. PPG that is about 1.5/1.6 and we are running at 1.33 at the moment. 12 games left and you're looking at minimum 6 wins, more likely 8 or 9. As I've said a step too far IMO but you never know. Just want to get to a stage of having some optimism for next season that isn't shown to be massively misplaced by September. 1 hour ago, Otis Blue said: Yes, can't argue with that analysis. The top two places are gone, so the battle now will be for places 3 and 4, and as you point out it will be a long shot for Queens to get there. In particular we would need to win our games against Airdrie, Alloa (good luck with that eh?) and Montrose - so a big improvement would be required. Even if we don't make it, the key is to be winning a few of these games, start playing well and having a basis of some key players who will form the core of our squad for next season so that we go into next season with some positivity for a change. I had a look at this division across the last decade. Obviously seasons 19/20 and 20/21 were short seasons but the other 8 saw following points achieved by teams in 4th (5th place in brackets): 2022 51 (46), 2019 51 (48), 2018 59 (58), 2017 50 (46), 2016 51 (49), 2015 59 (58), 2014 49 (48), 2013 54 (52) Clearly the 2019 and 2015 seasons were outliers with 59 needed for playoffs. In the other 6 years 53 would get you in and in five of them 50 would in reality have done it. It's fair to say a couple of teams marooned and pretty much losing every week increases everybody's else's average. It's also fair to say that one or two teams winning every week reduces it. It's in our interest for Dunfermline, and probably Falkirk, to start beating everyone else, certainly that middle group of Airdrie, Alloa, Edinburgh and Montrose. 4th placed Alloa are currently on schedule for 58 - 59 points so it's probably fair to say it's likely we'll need 56+ to get in, and @Otis Blue blue is absolutely right in that the 5 games against Airdrie, Alloa, Montrose and Edinburgh are likely to be the most critical. No better way to climb the table than winning head to heads against sides immediately above. We basically need 2 points a game from our remaining 12. Unless at least 2 of Airdrie, Alloa and Edinburgh go backwards we're going to have to win about 8 of our last 12 to get in, and we've two games with Dunfermline in there. It's achievable, but it will be difficult. It felt like a really big 3 points we dropped at Montrose recently and still does. The upcoming games against Kelty and Airdrie are particularly important. We need to be winning those if any serious possibility of getting into the top 4 by season's end and we've beaten neither side so far. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoonhamerDon Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Massive head to head games with that middle pack then and hopefully we do enough to keep interest in the hunt for the rest of the season. Signs of improvement from Bartley are there but the proof is in the pudding. Weve managed 9 wins in the league (Peterhead x3, Edinburgh x3, Clyde x2 and Montrose x1) from 24 games. Basically need to do that again but in half the amount of games and against better sides - not impossible but would need a big step up. Would be an excellent achievement and some turnaround from MB if we managed it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 So its a long shot, and wins against the middle pack (including I think Kelty who we haven't beaten yet and are next up for us) are going to be essential if we are to claw anything back. Skyline's also correct in that the recent loss to Montrose will probably prove painful for us in the long run. But we've nothing to lose, we need to go for it and it could be a fun run in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 14 minutes ago, Otis Blue said: So its a long shot, and wins against the middle pack (including I think Kelty who we haven't beaten yet and are next up for us) are going to be essential if we are to claw anything back. Skyline's also correct in that the recent loss to Montrose will probably prove painful for us in the long run. But we've nothing to lose, we need to go for it and it could be a fun run in. Wins against Kelty are important in that we need to win lots of games and they should be winnable. They're not directly as crucial as the "middle pack" though as we're already above them and if we're going to accumulate the sort of points return that would get us into the right playoffs then Kelty won't be a factor in doing so. Kelty games will be more difficult than Peterhead and Clyde because they are considerably better than Peterhead and Clyde. They are no more crucial though. Ultimately if we're going to draw game or lose one and still do it then it matters not whether that game is v Falkirk, Dunfermline, Kelty, Peterhead or Clyde. Those games are pretty much all as important or unimportant as each other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slipmat Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) If you aren't planning on travelling to the Kelty game you may be interested to know that the reserves' South Challenge Cup tie against Nithsdale Wanderers has now been scheduled for Saturday 18 February, 2pm kick off, at Lorimer Park. Edited February 9 by Slipmat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenacres Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 On 09/02/2023 at 09:42, Otis Blue said: Yes, can't argue with that analysis. The top two places are gone, so the battle now will be for places 3 and 4, and as you point out it will be a long shot for Queens to get there. In particular we would need to win our games against Airdrie, Alloa (good luck with that eh?) and Montrose - so a big improvement would be required. Even if we don't make it, the key is to be winning a few of these games, start playing well and having a basis of some key players who will form the core of our squad for next season so that we go into next season with some positivity for a change. Very difficult to make the playoffs . I can see us winning a few games but not anywhere near the level we need. All about next season and trying to keep a good core of the squad together now which again will be difficult . The 3 loan players will all be available all getting released but if they do well with us we will struggle to keep them . Would try and keep Todd Cochrane McGrory Hendrie Connelly East and most difficult will be Paton . Think Wilson Reilly Gibson Brydon and a few other youngsters are on 2 year deals . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, Greenacres said: Very difficult to make the playoffs . I can see us winning a few games but not anywhere near the level we need. All about next season and trying to keep a good core of the squad together now which again will be difficult . The 3 loan players will all be available all getting released but if they do well with us we will struggle to keep them . Would try and keep Todd Cochrane McGrory Hendrie Connelly East and most difficult will be Paton . Think Wilson Reilly Gibson Brydon and a few other youngsters are on 2 year deals . It's a very long shot from where we are now. But who knows, a wee run of wins at 3 points a pop combined with one of the teams currently above us hitting the buffers and its amazing how quickly things can change. Even if we don't make the top 4, a few wins and playing better keeps the interest going and brings some positivity to the club. All the while Marvin is working on who he keeps for next season and talking to agents about who could be available next season - which, as you say, is the big picture now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwithnoball Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 36 minutes ago, Otis Blue said: It's a very long shot from where we are now. But who knows, a wee run of wins at 3 points a pop combined with one of the teams currently above us hitting the buffers and its amazing how quickly things can change. Even if we don't make the top 4, a few wins and playing better keeps the interest going and brings some positivity to the club. All the while Marvin is working on who he keeps for next season and talking to agents about who could be available next season - which, as you say, is the big picture now. Who should we keep for next season? Only Brydon, Gibson, P McKay, Reilly and Wilson are under contract. Logan has been released by Hearts. Dabrowski out of contract at Hibs. Kabia out of contract at Livi. Surely gives us a chance with these players if they are interested in staying and are up to the standard Bartley is looking for with us although in a short space of time I would imagine Dabrowski will not be short of offers, Reilly has been told he is free to leave on loan initially and is obviously not part of the managers plan. Wilson and Connelly injury records this year have been poor but Wilson is a fantastic player and gives such a presence when available. Connelly has been average this year when he has played but I think he needs a run of games to see the best of him. All the other guys out of contract are fighting for their futures. Some will no doubt want to look elsewhere and some may want to stay to be part of the future project under Bartley. Interesting few months ahead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_palmy_pie Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Confirmation in todays Dumfries Courier that the 3G pitch will be replaced in the Summer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 2 hours ago, Otis Blue said: It's a very long shot from where we are now. But who knows, a wee run of wins at 3 points a pop combined with one of the teams currently above us hitting the buffers and its amazing how quickly things can change. Even if we don't make the top 4, a few wins and playing better keeps the interest going and brings some positivity to the club. All the while Marvin is working on who he keeps for next season and talking to agents about who could be available next season - which, as you say, is the big picture now. For me the only thing stopping us finishing in the Top 4 will be us. Considering how bad we've been it's pretty incredible we're only 7 pts off 3rd spot (with 36pts left to play for) so it's not like other sides form is going to stop us from grabbing a place. And as you say, a run of wins can change that league drastically. If the players can buy in to what Bartley is wanting then there's every chance we can get a playoff spot. Given how often they've given us hope only to tear it down, I'm not holding my breath. I don't expect us to make the playoffs so won't be angry with Bartley if we fail to do it. But it's definitely a realistic goal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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