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5 minutes ago, Manwithnoball said:

Bartley has obviously made to decision to let the 3 guys go and the fact he said in the interview let's everyone know. He is obviously working with the other guys who are all mostly playing for their futures. As he sees something he can work with. The signings of Dabrowski and Brydon have made us stronger defensively and hopefully Logan also hits the ground running. Kabia has to up his work rate for me. Bartley is ruthless as McGrory found out yesterday by being hooked at half time unfortunately he put Murray on for me is any empty shirt. When we get Wilson and Connelly back we will definitely be stronger and the fact we are only 6 points of the play offs and a semi final in the cup on Tuesday. Keep the momentum going into the Kelty game in a fortnight before a tough game against Dunfermline.

This Murray is a empty shirt is a bit harsh .

He is more  attack minded than  McGrory okay he is not as good as say a fit Connelly but still worth a place in the squad .

Reilly has been a huge dissapointment has never got anywhere near the level we need in saying that not sure Ruth is much better .

McKenna just does not like the physical side of the game easily bullied.

Rico has pace good going forward but as a defender he takes up poor positions easily beat in saying that not sure sgain if Hendrie is any better 

Our fitness looks  better everything done so much quicker good  to see us trying to pass the ball rather than the punt up the park .

We are are a work in progress can we do it against the better teams in the League time will tell.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Greenacres said:

This Murray is a empty shirt is a bit harsh .

He is more  attack minded than  McGrory okay he is not as good as say a fit Connelly but still worth a place in the squad .

Reilly has been a huge dissapointment has never got anywhere near the level we need in saying that not sure Ruth is much better .

McKenna just does not like the physical side of the game easily bullied.

Rico has pace good going forward but as a defender he takes up poor positions easily beat in saying that not sure sgain if Hendrie is any better 

Our fitness looks  better everything done so much quicker good  to see us trying to pass the ball rather than the punt up the park .

We are are a work in progress can we do it against the better teams in the League time will tell.

 

 

100 per cent agree Connelly is a better attacking option than McGrory. I just think Murray is not a better option than him. It is a game of opinions and that is mine. When Connelly and Wilson come back I don't see McGrory or Murray in the starting 11 going by the way the manager is setting up his team. But wil have to be kept in case of injuries to Wilson or Cochrane. 

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24 minutes ago, Greenacres said:

This Murray is a empty shirt is a bit harsh .

He is more  attack minded than  McGrory okay he is not as good as say a fit Connelly but still worth a place in the squad .

Reilly has been a huge dissapointment has never got anywhere near the level we need in saying that not sure Ruth is much better .

McKenna just does not like the physical side of the game easily bullied.

Rico has pace good going forward but as a defender he takes up poor positions easily beat in saying that not sure sgain if Hendrie is any better 

Our fitness looks  better everything done so much quicker good  to see us trying to pass the ball rather than the punt up the park .

We are are a work in progress can we do it against the better teams in the League time will tell.

 

 

Personally I think Murray continually flatters to deceive- he has some ability but lacks pace and is very ineffectual. I suspect that he is one of these players who looks great in training hence the reason that Managers keep giving him “game time” that other deserving cases don’t seem to get.

I think the longer Connelly is out the better his contribution and value to the team is perceived to be. He had a purple patch last season and looked a player but in the latter part of last season and this season (allowances made for injuries) he has been poor. When he eventually gets himself fit he needs to deliver a lot more than he has done or I suspect he will be looking for a new club next season.

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19 minutes ago, Rjc-1988 said:

Personally I think Murray continually flatters to deceive- he has some ability but lacks pace and is very ineffectual. I suspect that he is one of these players who looks great in training hence the reason that Managers keep giving him “game time” that other deserving cases don’t seem to get.

I think the longer Connelly is out the better his contribution and value to the team is perceived to be. He had a purple patch last season and looked a player but in the latter part of last season and this season (allowances made for injuries) he has been poor. When he eventually gets himself fit he needs to deliver a lot more than he has done or I suspect he will be looking for a new club next season.

Think that’s harsh on Connelly. It seems as though he’s not had a run of 4/5 starts in a row to really get his season going, yet he’s still scored a few in the season when he’s came off the bench. Think he was treated as a bit of a scapegoat under WG to be honest.

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2 hours ago, Rjc-1988 said:

Personally I think Murray continually flatters to deceive- he has some ability but lacks pace and is very ineffectual. I suspect that he is one of these players who looks great in training hence the reason that Managers keep giving him “game time” that other deserving cases don’t seem to get.

I think the longer Connelly is out the better his contribution and value to the team is perceived to be. He had a purple patch last season and looked a player but in the latter part of last season and this season (allowances made for injuries) he has been poor. When he eventually gets himself fit he needs to deliver a lot more than he has done or I suspect he will be looking for a new club next season.

Can’t really be judged this season imo 

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7 hours ago, Swarley said:

Out the Loop thread for this pish but I've only just noticed that Mr X has changed his name to Homer Thompson!

Sshhh! You'll blow his cover. 

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Gavin reilly was a really good footballer when he was first with us but looking at him now he has fallen out of love with the game and to honest I have followed his career over the years I think only at st mirren did he show that there is a player there . 
reason for me is when things not going well he hides goes missing and to be honest I think he could do with people telling the truth not sugar coat the problem he has . 
really think queens will do well to get him out on loan unless they pay most of wages 

another player who could have been miles better than he has turned out and 

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46 minutes ago, SUPERSOUTH said:

Expect Gavin, Rico & Ciaran all to be out on loan before end of Feb.. Most likely the end of fulltime football for all three. 

I would expect that as well. But well within their rights to sit tight rather than go part time. Reilly still has another year on his contract. I take it Bartley knows him really well from Livingston so that helped make up his mind. Rico has been a little bit unlucky don't think there is much between him and Hendrie. McKenna has to be replaced to many mistakes he needs to go and play his proper CB position. 

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1 hour ago, Manwithnoball said:

I would expect that as well. But well within their rights to sit tight rather than go part time. Reilly still has another year on his contract. I take it Bartley knows him really well from Livingston so that helped make up his mind. Rico has been a little bit unlucky don't think there is much between him and Hendrie. McKenna has to be replaced to many mistakes he needs to go and play his proper CB position. 

Rico is good going forward but his defensive positioning is pretty abysmal and he has a tendency to rush into challenges that don't need to be made.  I think Hendrie has slightly more about him defensively and to be fair he can deliver a good cross, even if he is prone to the odd calamity.

One guy who must surely be on his way out who Marvin didn't mention is Morrison.  That's five months gone by since he last played.  Has he even returned to training yet?  I doubt we'll see him in a Queens shirt again.

With Marvin indicating that the squad is too big hopefully we'll see more quality than quantity next season.

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It's pretty clear that any positives we get from the rest of this season will be a bonus.  The real deal is next season now and I'm sure that Marvin knows what type/what position/who he wants - refreshingly he strikes me as a guy with a clear plan/strategy moving forwards.  The guys in our current squad need to put in a serious shift in the remainder of this season or they'll be out, simples.  For the first time in years I'm actually looking forward to next season.

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I do think a few more also need to get told they can leave as well. In an ideal world I think I would move on Murray, Irvine and Ruth as well as bringing in another striker on loan. We are a Paton injury away from ending our (very small) play-off hopes.

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Speaking of Stephen Humphries long range goal columnist Gordon Parks states it was a special goal but he had once played in a Clyde game where Stevie (Snowy) Morrison scored against Queens of the South from further out than the length of Sauchiehall Street. Anyone remember this goal?

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40 minutes ago, queenslad said:

Speaking of Stephen Humphries long range goal columnist Gordon Parks states it was a special goal but he had once played in a Clyde game where Stevie (Snowy) Morrison scored against Queens of the South from further out than the length of Sauchiehall Street. Anyone remember this goal?

Can't recall that Clyde goal (no doubt some of the Bully Wee P&B guys will do though).

Noticeable that in all of the eulogising about Humphries goal, the Central Belt scribes (bless their wee cotton socks) don't seem to be mentioning an equally or even more impressive 84 yd effort from a certain R McCann esq circa 2008 ...

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13 hours ago, queenslad said:

Speaking of Stephen Humphries long range goal columnist Gordon Parks states it was a special goal but he had once played in a Clyde game where Stevie (Snowy) Morrison scored against Queens of the South from further out than the length of Sauchiehall Street. Anyone remember this goal?

 

12 hours ago, Otis Blue said:

Can't recall that Clyde goal (no doubt some of the Bully Wee P&B guys will do though).

Noticeable that in all of the eulogising about Humphries goal, the Central Belt scribes (bless their wee cotton socks) don't seem to be mentioning an equally or even more impressive 84 yd effort from a certain R McCann esq circa 2008 ...

It wasnt really more impressive though was it? It means everything to us due to circumstances but it was an open goal with Samson up the pitch. Humphries had a keeper to beat.

I cant recall this Clyde goal either. Parks, who was a borderline footballer ultimately played 1 year at Clyde which dates it to 1994. I remember a horribly wind affected game up there where Andy McFarlane scored direct from a corner.

16 hours ago, Slipmat said:

One guy who must surely be on his way out who Marvin didn't mention is Morrison.  That's five months gone by since he last played.  Has he even returned to training yet?  I doubt we'll see him in a Queens shirt again.

He mentioned Morrison lasr week said his recovery hadnt gone as well as hoped and may need more surgery

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