Greenacres Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 15 hours ago, trotsky27 said: Only left us as he never told club he was off to the World Cup Think if I was 2nd choice to Max Currie I would leave as well . Scott Fox decent keeper no more than that can't remember him making any great saves in his few games with us. Hopefully Kev is better .Think it will be next week before any more loans come in as clubs find out who is leaving . We really need to try and get players out but it is not easy as most players wil want to stay full time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, Greenacres said: Think if I was 2nd choice to Max Currie I would leave as well . Scott Fox decent keeper no more than that can't remember him making any great saves in his few games with us. Hopefully Kev is better .Think it will be next week before any more loans come in as clubs find out who is leaving . We really need to try and get players out but it is not easy as most players wil want to stay full time You're 2nd choice to Max Currie. Cheerio. Scott Fox is another of those players who gets better every time he didn't play. I understand the clamour for him was because fans didn't like Currie. The Currie signing didn't work out as well as anyone hoped but he certainly wasn't helped by what was in front of him. When you're not a "big" goalkeeper you are looking for your centre halves to go attack balls in the air. Ours didn't. Max Currie is pretty agile and made a lot of very good reaction saves (and was very good at penalties) but he certainly doesn't dominate his box or take crosses. Ultimately Fox played 4 games for us. A 4-1 win over Edinburgh where the only thing he had to do was face an injury time penalty (which he didn't get near). A 1-1 draw with Alloa where we utterly dominated and the only thing he had to do was pick the ball out of the net when they equalised with a very late header. Then the 3-3 draw at Airdrie followed by the 1-0 loss at Kelty. He lost his place after that as he was ill and Currie got a clean sheet in his absence and didn't do much wrong in the next few games before there was a parting of ways. Fox might be the next Craig Gordon for an Indian summer in a goalkeeping career but I'm not sure you can tell much from his 4 games with us. I could have played in goal for the first two and the results would have been the same and I think he might have done better with the Alloa header. I didn't think he covered himself in glory in either the Airdrie or Kelty games to be honest. The only goal at Kelty was a daisycutter from outside the box that wasn't right in the corner but went in anyway. He didn't have any chance with Airdrie's 3rd but the first seemed to go through him a bit from my angle and the 2nd was a near post Fordyce header from about 5 yards he neither came for nor got down to. I'm not sure that Charlie Cowie is any worse than either of them to be honest. Pretty confident Dabrowski will be a massive upgrade on both Currie and Fox having seen him once. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fae_the_'briggs Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I don't think it was only Currie's goalkeeping ability that set a lot of fans against him (although we were well warned by Airdrie fans of his weaknesses when he signed), I think it was because he came across as just a bit of a twat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dextermorgan Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Currie is history for both of us now but you have to ask what both our managers seen in him in the first place. My opinion of him hasn't changed since the first time he played for us. Good shot stopper but decision making left a lot to be desired. Currie always seemed to let us down when it mattered and that for me was a clear indicator of a keeper who cannot and should not be playing football at our level. Good luck to the guy and good luck to EK if they ever get to a play off or the like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 4 hours ago, dextermorgan said: Currie is history for both of us now but you have to ask what both our managers seen in him in the first place. My opinion of him hasn't changed since the first time he played for us. Good shot stopper but decision making left a lot to be desired. Currie always seemed to let us down when it mattered and that for me was a clear indicator of a keeper who cannot and should not be playing football at our level. Good luck to the guy and good luck to EK if they ever get to a play off or the like. Recruitment is one of the key requisites for a manager at our level, and it's one of the hardest to get right. Alas WG's squad is a reflection on his attributes in that respect. Often tended to rely on guys he already knew, which is sometimes perceived as a less risky road but can let you down - I've been guilty of similar myself over the years. Real shame, as a local lad we wanted him to succeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 What's the story with Fox and going to see the World Cup? I've missed this. Am I being whoooshed? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Monkey Tennis said: What's the story with Fox and going to see the World Cup? I've missed this. Am I being whoooshed? The "story" doing the rounds is that the reason the loan was ended early was he flew off to the World Cup for December. As far as I'm aware it's not true though. Like nearly everything else on the internet, someone says it once and everyone else then decides to repeat it as a fact. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenacres Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 43 minutes ago, Skyline Drifter said: The "story" doing the rounds is that the reason the loan was ended early was he flew off to the World Cup for December. As far as I'm aware it's not true though. Like nearly everything else on the internet, someone says it once and everyone else then decides to repeat it as a fact. Did I miss the announcement that Bange is away back to Blackpool. He was never good enough amazed Dobbie recommended him yet another signing Wullie got wrong .. Wullie signed quantity rather than quality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, Greenacres said: Did I miss the announcement that Bange is away back to Blackpool. His loan was only until 8th January so not sure there was anything to announce. https://www.blackpoolfc.co.uk/news/2022/september/01/ewan-bange-joins-queen-of-the-south-on-loan/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 3 hours ago, Greenacres said: Did I miss the announcement that Bange is away back to Blackpool. He was never good enough amazed Dobbie recommended him yet another signing Wullie got wrong .. Wullie signed quantity rather than quality. 23 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: His loan was only until 8th January so not sure there was anything to announce. https://www.blackpoolfc.co.uk/news/2022/september/01/ewan-bange-joins-queen-of-the-south-on-loan/ Yeah, he's gone back. There was no announcement. There maybe should have been but it was pretty much lost in the post match appointment of Marvin Bartley. There's a few we bits and pieces needing confirmed to be fair. I'll sort something out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otis Blue Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 3 hours ago, Greenacres said: Did I miss the announcement that Bange is away back to Blackpool. To be fair to Gibson, you have to take some notice when a goal-scoring legend like Dobbie makes a striker recommendation to you; and especially when you are new to management. The other side of the coin is that by taking Bange it was potentially opening up a possible future stream of alternative (to Scottish) young talent. So you can see the logic. In this case it didn't work out, most of these sort of loans don't, but every now and then you unearth a gem - an example being Izzy Jones the other year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Connor Shields apparently leaving Motherwell on loan. Carlisle and Dundee are supposed to be interested but their fans say it is unlikely… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwithnoball Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Was expecting some more movement in our squad. Bartley will no doubt be analysing our squad in training. But I would imagine these players will not want to take the drop down to part time. Here's hoping the new manager can install a bit of confidence into them and sort out our defence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_palmy_pie Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 48 minutes ago, Otis Blue said: To be fair to Gibson, you have to take some notice when a goal-scoring legend like Dobbie makes a striker recommendation to you; and especially when you are new to management. The other side of the coin is that by taking Bange it was potentially opening up a possible future stream of alternative (to Scottish) young talent. So you can see the logic. In this case it didn't work out, most of these sort of loans don't, but every now and then you unearth a gem - an example being Izzy Jones the other year. Dobbie nipped into Palmerston for a quick visit earlier this week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fae_the_'briggs Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 22 minutes ago, Manwithnoball said: Was expecting some more movement in our squad. Bartley will no doubt be analysing our squad in training. But I would imagine these players will not want to take the drop down to part time. Here's hoping the new manager can install a bit of confidence into them and sort out our defence. Bartley's pretty upfront in the item in today's Courier, shape up or your out. Saying and doing of course are two different things, getting some of these "players" to leave voluntarily or finding someone like EK daft enough to pay money for them will prove difficult. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenacres Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 21 minutes ago, Fae_the_'briggs said: Bartley's pretty upfront in the item in today's Courier, shape up or your out. Saying and doing of course are two different things, getting some of these "players" to leave voluntarily or finding someone like EK daft enough to pay money for them will prove difficult. My only worry of Bartley is thinking that the likes of McKenna Hendrie McKay and many more will get better with good coaching . They will all look good in training but it is in games that they disappear and get bullied . Some of our squad just don't have the aggression to win games of football We are still desperate for a experienced aggressive centre half who is a leader at the back until we get that we will struggle. We need more pace as well we are far to slow passing the ball 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Been with us since December but now official. I'm not that observant. Cowie surely loaned out again if not released? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QoS99 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Are we owed any money if Dykes moves on again? Millwall have had a £3m bid rejected, and Stoke are after him according to a few of the papers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) 12 minutes ago, QoS99 said: Are we owed any money if Dykes moves on again? Millwall have had a £3m bid rejected, and Stoke are after him according to a few of the papers Burnley interested too apparently. Edited January 20 by Distant Doonhamer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK_Queens Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, QoS99 said: Are we owed any money if Dykes moves on again? Millwall have had a £3m bid rejected, and Stoke are after him according to a few of the papers I think the way it usually works is we’d get a percentage of any potential sell on fee Livingston have agreed. If Livingston have a 10% sell on, and got £300k (may be less if sale on is just based on profit), and we had a 10% sell on we’d get £30k. Hypothetical figures clearly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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