The Queen of the South thread

[TERREGLES1919]

2 hours ago, Slipmat said:

I'd also like East to re-sign with a view to playing a centre-back role.  It's difficult to judge whether or not he would be a decent central strike option due to the relatively few games he's played for us as a No.9.  AJ for some unknown reason seemed to see him primarily as a winger, despite having other wing options available at the time, where he was bang average, and then even more bizarrely Cameron would probably still have been picked as main striker if we had Harry Kane on the books when East could probably have done a better job. 

East certainly carries a goal threat at set pieces which makes me think he could do a job up front but I  don't think he's the sort of player who's going to get into double goal figures over a season.  If played up front I see him more as a Sean O'Connor type who is physical, can win the ball and provide assists.  I certainly don't see him as a first choice left-back.  Left side of a back three maybe at a push, but never on the extreme left of a back four/five.

A very decent post...

[19QOS19]

A very decent post...

Ironically, something you've failed to ever produce.

[third lanark]

I saw the posts that you guys have offered Fitzpatrick a new contract- apparently we have offered him a contract as well.

Though no idea who he will sign for and there maybe other clubs looking at him too

[Otis Blue]

16 minutes ago, third lanark said:

I saw the posts that you guys have offered Fitzpatrick a new contract- apparently we have offered him a contract as well.

Though no idea who he will sign for and there maybe other clubs looking at him too

He won't be coming back to Queens then - we simply can't match Thistle's budget or the prospect of playing at a higher level.

Shame though, as I think there is a player in there when played in a team/style that suits him.  He can be frustrating though, because otherwise he just drifts out of the action and looks lost.  Gibson was starting to get the best out of him and Fitzpatrick was beginning to look interested, adding goals, and you could see his pace and talent and then he did his hamstring - arguably we might have made the playoff if he'd been fit for the final few games.

[19QOS19]

I saw the posts that you guys have offered Fitzpatrick a new contract- apparently we have offered him a contract as well.
Though no idea who he will sign for and there maybe other clubs looking at him too

He won't be coming back to Queens then - we simply can't match Thistle's budget or the prospect of playing at a higher level.
Shame though, as I think there is a player in there when played in a team/style that suits him.  He can be frustrating though, because otherwise he just drifts out of the action and looks lost.  Gibson was starting to get the best out of him and Fitzpatrick was beginning to look interested, adding goals, and you could see his pace and talent and then he did his hamstring - arguably we might have made the playoff if he'd been fit for the final few games.

Pretty much this. I want him to stay purely down to the fact that Gibson was getting the best out of him. Before Gibson took charge Fitzpatrick was a completely meh player for us with glimpses of his potential. When we re-signed him last season I was completely underwhelmed which says it all really.

I reckon he'd be better staying on with us. If he has a brilliant season with us he'd probably be on for a bigger move but you couldn't blame him for going back to Thistle. If he stays I'll be happy but if he goes I certainly won't be crushed.

[Distant Doonhamer]

On 14/05/2022 at 11:40, sidofthesouth said:

Ex Queens man Owen Moxon looked like the best player on the pitch last night.

 

On 14/05/2022 at 12:02, the philosopher said:

Yes we're resigned to losing him.

 

Carlisle and Hartlepool both rumoured to be showing interest in him.

Moxon has signed a 2 year deal with Carlisle United.

https://www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/2022/may/breaking-midfielder-agrees-two-year-deal/

[oneteaminglasgow]

4 hours ago, Otis Blue said:

He won't be coming back to Queens then - we simply can't match Thistle's budget or the prospect of playing at a higher level.

I’m not sure - I mean, the above is correct, but I would imagine that, particularly in League One, Queens can offer him a start every week which we maybe won’t be offering him and which he’s never really had in his career yet. That could be very appealing.

That said, we’ll offer him more money, a higher league and, as he’s from Clydebank, a far easier commute so it depends what he’s after really. 

[19QOS19]

Moxon has signed a 2 year deal with Carlisle United.
https://www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/2022/may/breaking-midfielder-agrees-two-year-deal/

Good on him. I did like him as a player but we don't really have the luxury of affording young boys time to develop. Not surprised he's got a decent move up though.

[19QOS19]

I’m not sure - I mean, the above is correct, but I would imagine that, particularly in League One, Queens can offer him a start every week which we maybe won’t be offering him and which he’s never really had in his career yet. That could be very appealing.
That said, we’ll offer him more money, a higher league and, as he’s from Clydebank, a far easier commute so it depends what he’s after really. 

The first two are correct but we train in Glasgow as well so I don't imagine that will factor in to it.

[Otis Blue]

43 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

That said, we’ll offer him more money, a higher league and, as he’s from Clydebank, a far easier commute so it depends what he’s after really. 

Therein lies his answer, and you can't blame the lad.

[Otis Blue]

38 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

44 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

 

The first two are correct but we train in Glasgow as well so I don't imagine that will factor in to it.

Do we not train at Hamilton these days ... not sure.

I suppose playing with Partick 50% of his games will be reasonably close to home for him, whereas playing for Queens most games involve travel both home and away. So it won't just come down to wages when players consider offers from Queens - there'll be a personal time factor as well.

[TERREGLES1919]

19 hours ago, 19QOS19 said:

19 hours ago, TERREGLES1919 said:

A very decent post...

Ironically, something you've failed to ever produce.

Really?

[JessieField]

I think WG is about to find out how difficult it is to build a squad from more or less scratch, never mind making it a competitive one. Only 7 weeks to go till the new season.

[sneeuq]

10 hours ago, third lanark said:

I saw the posts that you guys have offered Fitzpatrick a new contract- apparently we have offered him a contract as well.

Though no idea who he will sign for and there maybe other clubs looking at him too

Not sure what age he is but think he could make a real impact in league 1 and really kick start his career rather than fizzling out at PT. 

[the philosopher]

7 hours ago, 19QOS19 said:

7 hours ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

Moxon has signed a 2 year deal with Carlisle United.
https://www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/2022/may/breaking-midfielder-agrees-two-year-deal/

Good on him. I did like him as a player but we don't really have the luxury of affording young boys time to develop. Not surprised he's got a decent move up though.

Moxon is now 24 and more than suitable for SPFL league 2. Under Simpson should do well at Carlisle in English league2.

For the future because of our location perhaps there should be greater cooperation/links between our Border teams creating pathways for young players.In recent years Annan have successfully recruited from Dalbeattie ie.Muir,Goss,Anderson etc. and vice a versa Ex.Annan player Currie is top goalscorers with them this year.

[19QOS19]

Moxon is now 24 and more than suitable for SPFL league 2. Under Simpson should do well at Carlisle in English league2.
For the future because of our location perhaps there should be greater cooperation/links between our Border teams creating pathways for young players.In recent years Annan have successfully recruited from Dalbeattie ie.Muir,Goss,Anderson etc. and vice a versa Ex.Annan player Currie is top goalscorers with them this year.

I used to laugh that Annan were QoS reserves recently but it should be like that. In an ideal world we'd loan you our young boys to give them game time (much rather that than them going to Dalbeattie). But as I say, we don't have the luxury of doing that for a couple of years sadly.

[Otis Blue]

10 hours ago, the philosopher said:

For the future because of our location perhaps there should be greater cooperation/links between our Border teams creating pathways for young players.

Seems entirely sensible to me.

[Otis Blue]

12 hours ago, sneeuq said:

Not sure what age he is but think he could make a real impact in league 1 and really kick start his career rather than fizzling out at PT. 

This would be our main hope in trying to keep Fitzpatrick - ie he should be a regular first pick for us, and I'm sure he'd shine at L1 level and a season playing regularly at L1 with good reviews could be a springboard to a good move (eg Nicky Clark) the following season.  Whereas he'd be unlikely to command an automatic first pick place at Partick.  I still think its a long shot for us though as the wages and locality will be huge factors in his decision.

[Otis Blue]

13 hours ago, JessieField said:

I think WG is about to find out how difficult it is to build a squad from more or less scratch, never mind making it a competitive one. Only 7 weeks to go till the new season.

Yep, recruitment is one of the hardest parts of the manager's job - especially at our level and with our geographical location.  What with players existing contracts running down and end of season holidays (and did someone not mention the window opening on 7 June ... or did I dream that?)  I don't expect we will start to see the shape of the squad until the second half of June/end June.  Early days yet.

[Kunter]

8 hours ago, Otis Blue said:

Yep, recruitment is one of the hardest parts of the manager's job - especially at our level and with our geographical location.  What with players existing contracts running down and end of season holidays (and did someone not mention the window opening on 7 June ... or did I dream that?)  I don't expect we will start to see the shape of the squad until the second half of June/end June.  Early days yet.

 

Don't think location is a issue as it's not like they have to train down here. 

Plastic pitch isn't a great sell and would guess the wages are as low as they can get away with. 

Still early days like you say.