The Queen of the South thread

[Kunter]

8 hours ago, Manwithnoball said:

How can you honestly call Arbroath a fluke. They are well organised team fronted by a manager who has respect in the whole of Scottish football. They pay slightly more to their part time players due to travel. But almost every year every single player wants to re-sign for their manager again even some that don't play all the time. He has a formation he plays that if you want to play you have to fit it.  You are telling me you would not take Dick Campbell in a minute over AJ. Campbell adds a couple of quality loan signings to his squad every year and he does not take premier League team kids with no experience into his squad. Nouble and Hamilton for example. He has a core of experienced players who would run through a brick wall for him and every player that comes in adopts the same attitude. Their crowds are going up and up and the club is on great shape. When you someone steering the ship properly that's what happens. 

 

My point was in reference to the comment full time / part time is  the way forward, look at Arbroath.

Soon as bigger clubs start sniffing about they'll most likely have a rebuild excercise. 

Harder to keep hold of your players when you're part time unless they have settled jobs outside football.  

 

[Slipmat]

51 minutes ago, qos1990 said:

Saturday is season defining for us. Get beat it’s over… these teams have acted against poor results and it’s paid dividends. Our board have buried there head in the sand, an absolute shit show

Sad to say it but I think our season has already been defined.  We have thirteen league matches left and I would estimate that we need to win at least 5 and pick up a couple of draws along the way to have any chance of surviving.  Given that we have only won 5 league games in the past eleven months I can't see it happening.

What has and hasn't been done in those eleven months while we haven't been winning games?

Well, we got the six-figure Dykes sell-on money and have barely touched it.  We got the covid grant too.  We made a £720k profit over the previous season and let it sit in the bank.  It wasn't invested in a fresh playing surface.  It wasn't used to spruce up the ground.  It wasn't used to offer the better players of last season contracts which would make them consider staying on.  It wasn't used to sign players of the required quality over 2 transfer windows.  We didn't touch the Tanner Fund.  Our SLO's resigned en masse.  Our average crowd now only gets into 4 figures when the opposition bring a decent support.  We've been knocked out of the Scottish Cup at the first hurdle by a club from a lower league.  We witnessed the George Galloway shambles and the board's embarrassing response through the national media (okay, that was 14 months ago!).  An inept manager with one of the lowest ppg percentages in the history of the club was rewarded a 2 year contract and is still here despite some shocking results and performances.  We did nothing about that problem while all of our rivals who had lumbered themselves with similar managerial duds emptied them and got results. 

It seems as if the BoD are more concerned with projecting an image of being a community club than that of a professional football club what with all their talk of in investing in the KGV and Lochmaben hubs etc - the first thing to take care of at a football club I would have thought is having a successful team on the pitch to attract support and increase revenue (not that there is any guarantee that said revenue wouldn't be hoarded in the bank too).

The irony is that Messrs Hewitson, Blount and Paterson were all present at the club, either as members of the playing staff, shareholders or both during the Harkness years but don't seem to have learned from that debacle and are dragging us back towards similar dark days, the similarity even going as far as the development of the aforementioned hubs mirroring Harkness' obsession with getting the Icebowl built while the ground was falling into disrepair around him.

Even the official website says our next fixture is the one which was postponed on Saturday.  Apathy reigns supreme.

Harkness days as here again, folks. 

Edited February 9, 2022 by Slipmat

[19QOS19]

I'd argue we needed to do both. 

I wouldn't argue strongly against that but for me there is enough within the squad to pick up results if the side was managed properly. You just have to look at the clubs around us who brought in new managers and have started to pick up. I don't think those sides have brought in a whole host of new players, more they have a manager who has an inkling of what they are doing. Sadly we don't. We have a manager who by Einstein's definition is showing signs of insanity.

[Guest Flash]

Is Johnston likely to get binned when Queens lose on Saturday? Or will they wait until relegation is confirmed? Or will they keep him on?

 

[BeeJay]

Well there's every chance he is kept on to complete his contract as the 1st Division is his level!

[19QOS19]

Is Johnston likely to get binned when Queens lose on Saturday? Or will they wait until relegation is confirmed? Or will they keep him on?
 

If he isn't in charge of us for our first game in League 1 next season I'll be gobsmacked.

[vikingTON]

12 hours ago, Kunter said:

 

My point was in reference to the comment full time / part time is  the way forward, look at Arbroath.

Soon as bigger clubs start sniffing about they'll most likely have a rebuild excercise. 

Harder to keep hold of your players when you're part time unless they have settled jobs outside football.  

 

Full time clubs at the bottom of the Championship face a much greater challenge retaining players in the current market than part time ones - Cove, Queens' Park and Kelty are all equipped to take your best players right now (or in Falkirk's case, utter haddies). 

Arbroath's team will be broken up, but nowhere near as quickly as a full-time equivalent and might not have had the same continuity to begin with. That doesn't mean part-time teams will start waltzing to regular titles at this level - but Queen of the South (like Morton) are pretty much getting the worst of both worlds, with the exception of a wider loan market. 

[Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army]

I would sadly agree.

If he isn't in charge of us for our first game in League 1 next season I'll be gobsmacked.

[Manwithnoball]

35 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

1 hour ago, Flash said:

Is Johnston likely to get binned when Queens lose on Saturday? Or will they wait until relegation is confirmed? Or will they keep him on?
 

If he isn't in charge of us for our first game in League 1 next season I'll be gobsmacked.

100% agree our club will not make the right decision that all other clubs have. Total rebuild again in summer no matter who in charge. Only Chima(yes he has a 2 year contract), Paton & Cochrane contracted. Two off them have poor injury records.

[Greenacres]

26 minutes ago, Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army said:

I would sadly agree.

I agree as well for 

 

1 minute ago, Manwithnoball said:

100% agree our club will not make the right decision that all other clubs have. Total rebuild again in summer no matter who in charge. Only Chima(yes he has a 2 year contract), Paton & Cochrane contracted. Two off them have poor injury records.

Has Harry Cochrane disappeared to the same place as Chima .Will we see either before the season ends .

Was looking at our squad size 25 players far to many  we certainly have quantity but sadly very little quality 

 

 

[Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army]

Am not convinced Chima is real tbh.

100% agree our club will not make the right decision that all other clubs have. Total rebuild again in summer no matter who in charge. Only Chima(yes he has a 2 year contract), Paton & Cochrane contracted. Two off them have poor injury records.

[queenslad]

Harry Cochrane could return to training in the next couple of weeks but his recovery is taking longer than expected.

Good news for Udoka Chima - he has returned to training. It's going to take him a bit of time to get match pace.

Paul McKay is due to see a specialist  for his hip injury later this week

[oldhat]

Here's a question for the more IT proficient among you - at what point in the season where Brechin were pumped nearly every week were they doomed to unavoidable relegation, and how does that compare to us this year?  It's so sad, frustrating and effing infuriating to see Queens tamely giving up, on the field, in the dug-out and in the boardroom, it seems like the club is dying in front of our eyes.  Maybe I'm not a "real fan" but what's the point in making an effort turning up to games when nobody within the club (with one or two exceptions, of course, such as W Gibson) seems to be making any effort from the inside?  So sad.

[Distant Doonhamer]

3 minutes ago, oldhat said:

Here's a question for the more IT proficient among you - at what point in the season where Brechin were pumped nearly every week were they doomed to unavoidable relegation, and how does that compare to us this year?  It's so sad, frustrating and effing infuriating to see Queens tamely giving up, on the field, in the dug-out and in the boardroom, it seems like the club is dying in front of our eyes.  Maybe I'm not a "real fan" but what's the point in making an effort turning up to games when nobody within the club (with one or two exceptions, of course, such as W Gibson) seems to be making any effort from the inside?  So sad.

From Wikipedia

Brechin's return to the second tier proved short lived; having not won a league match and with four points, the club were relegated on 24 March 2018 following a 2–0 loss to Greenock Morton.[27]

Brechin ended their Championship campaign with a 1–5 loss to Queen of the South at Glebe Park. This meant the club became the first senior Scottish side in 126 years to fail to win a single game in a league season. Brechin ended the 2017–18 season with no wins, four draws, 32 defeats and no away points at all.

[Terry_Tibbs]

With close to a million in the bank (depreciating by the hour) it would be indefensible to have AJ in charge next season.

If he's available in the summer, i'd like to see John Mcglynn rebuild at Palmerston.

[Fae_the_'briggs]

17 minutes ago, Terry_Tibbs said:

With close to a million in the bank (depreciating by the hour) it would be indefensible to have AJ in charge next season.

If he's available in the summer, i'd like to see John Mcglynn rebuild at Palmerston.

John McGlynn may not be the wisest choice to recruit players considering he was complicit in Raith's recent notorious signing. 

Of course your suggestion could be a whoosh. 

[19QOS19]

With close to a million in the bank (depreciating by the hour) it would be indefensible to have AJ in charge next season.
If he's available in the summer, i'd like to see John Mcglynn rebuild at Palmerston.

Happy signing a rapist? No thanks.

[Alex Nesovic's Barmy Army]

Aye he's covered himself in glory recently, right enough.

With close to a million in the bank (depreciating by the hour) it would be indefensible to have AJ in charge next season.
If he's available in the summer, i'd like to see John Mcglynn rebuild at Palmerston.

[Broken Algorithms]

John McGlynn will either stay on with us or retire. I can't see him going to any other club.

[Otis Blue]

21 hours ago, Broken Algorithms said:

John McGlynn will either stay on with us or retire. I can't see him going to any other club.

I've always liked the sort of football John McGlynn's teams have played and thought he talks well in interviews (even if he isn't exactly comfortable in front of the camera), apart from his recent total brainfart moment of course .... Tend to agree with BA though, he'll probably chuck it when he eventually leaves Rovers ..... plus, I doubt he'd fancy a return to League 1 football ... 

Edited February 12, 2022 by Otis Blue