Loonytoons Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 5 hours ago, TxRover said: Nice to see you still have that freedom…illegal in California: https://www.loweringthebar.net/2023/04/ninth-circuit-says-no-expressive-honking.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 41 minutes ago, Loonytoons said: She’s Canadian, not Californian… 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 Rolling strikes still going strong. Junior Doctors are out in England and Wales today for 72 hours. Just a fortnight short of this thread starting the workers are still trying to get a fair deal out the government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 58 minutes ago, 101 said: Rolling strikes still going strong. Junior Doctors are out in England and Wales today for 72 hours. Just a fortnight short of this thread starting the workers are still trying to get a fair deal out the government. More power to them. FY1-2’s get shafted up here in Scotland as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, SweeperDee said: More power to them. FY1-2’s get shafted up here in Scotland as well. Did they juniors not get a 9% offer in Scotland? (this isn’t to say that they should accept that, just highlighting the disparity of offers) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, mathematics said: Did they juniors not get a 9% offer in Scotland? (this isn’t to say that they should accept that, just highlighting the disparity of offers) Scottish offer: https://www.gov.scot/news/new-pay-offer-for-junior-doctors/#:~:text=If accepted%2C the new and,other NHS workers in 2023. The bigger issues in my view are the shambolic working conditions, shortage of training positions, & having to pay own exam fees, registration fees & other compulsory training expenses. Edited June 14, 2023 by Bonksy+HisChristianParade 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 52 minutes ago, mathematics said: Did they juniors not get a 9% offer in Scotland? (this isn’t to say that they should accept that, just highlighting the disparity of offers) FY’s are more usually on Band 2/3 pay; for the amount of work they do they should be on parity with Nurses. I know FY’s that do bank work as HC’s because of the shit pay, and like Bonksy said they get barely any help when it comes to paying for training, registration etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said: registration fees Is this different from any other sector? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, mathematics said: Is this different from any other sector? I got NHS funding for my BPS accreditation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonksy+HisChristianParade Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, mathematics said: Is this different from any other sector? My ICAS fees have been paid by every employer I’ve had, both in industry and in practice. This is similarly the case for other professionals such as the solicitors I know have their practicing certificates funded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 My employer (and Mrs Mathematics’) gives me the chat that “my salary builds in potential professional registration fees”, and assumed that most would be similar. Clearly not all employers are greedy c***s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted June 14, 2023 Author Share Posted June 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Bonksy+HisChristianParade said: Scottish offer: https://www.gov.scot/news/new-pay-offer-for-junior-doctors/#:~:text=If accepted%2C the new and,other NHS workers in 2023. The bigger issues in my view are the shambolic working conditions, shortage of training positions, & having to pay own exam fees, registration fees & other compulsory training expenses. That should definitely be provided in return for like 10 years service to NHS Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milhouse Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 'Junior Doctor' is a misnomer suggesting young people only, but is actually any medical staff not on a consultant contract which is a huge part of the medical workforce. The process to become a consultant is far from a walk in the park, and takes at least 10-15 years (particularly for surgical jobs) after graduation from medical school. Entry to medical school itself requires all A grades at 4th-6th year of school and there is a pre-medical UKCAT entrance exam now. Uni fees covered by SAAS for Scottish students in Scotland but £9000+ per year for anyone else. After graduation, for surgery there is: MRCS diploma (2 written papers, then clinical exam) - £1400 each attempt. Followed by FRCS diploma (2 written papers, then clinical and viva exam) - £1900 each attempt. Pass rate per exam attempt is usually 50% of candidates. It is common to be still be doing exams which are mandatory for career progression in your mid-30s. There is highly competitive entry to specialty training programmes, which often require a self-funded post-graduate degree (e.g. at entry level, MPhil at £2900), publication of research papers in spare time and additional courses which are self-funded in order to build a competitive CV. In 2017 the Association of Surgeons in Training calculated an average personal cost of £20-26,000 (which doesn't include undergraduate tuition fees) to train to consultant level - and this is completely accurate. In training there is a stringent yearly appraisal and assessment process, requiring submission of assessments essentially on a weekly basis, and there is a £270 annual fee for doing this process. 'Junior doctors' do things in the middle of the night while everyone else is in bed - it's not an exaggeration that they can be the only person on site in a hospital at 3AM for miles around who are available to do an emergency treatment/procedure/operation. Compare with dentists, for example, who earn significantly more, for less qualifications and are never anywhere but in bed at 3AM. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted June 14, 2023 Share Posted June 14, 2023 5 hours ago, mathematics said: Is this different from any other sector? Most professional services firms pay subs and training fees. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Angelo Barksdale Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 35 minutes ago, Herc said: The Lord will provide. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 37 minutes ago, Herc said: Is it not written: ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer for all the nations’? But you have made it a den of robbers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: Is it not written: ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer for all the nations’? But you have made it a den of robbers. I prefer Ezekiel 23:20, gets the religious types a bit wound up. Edited June 19, 2023 by TxRover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted August 25, 2023 Author Share Posted August 25, 2023 We are all pretty much used to strikes in the rail network and NHS now but a new kid is on the block! The Civil Aviation Authority in their first industrial ballot since 1972 have voted to strike 67% but 87% for industrial action short of striking so would expect work to rule first and see if things improve. Only 16% of the workforce is unionised which may increase as it did in the postal and rail disputes but wouldn't expect massive disruption unless particular airports have higher union representation than others. Also 24th rail strike in a year in England tomorrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) Schools in the majority of Scottish council areas are going to be closed next week as a strike from Unison represented school staff goes ahead. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-66874881 I am going to have to take a family day for one of these so I think the government should send in the tanks and force the strikers to break. For too long have school office staff and dinner ladies lorded it over us. Edited September 22, 2023 by ICTChris 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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