RH33 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 40 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: That's not strictly true - there's been a growing number of pupils being taken out of school for holidays during school term, particularly in the last week before any holidays. Personally I can't blame them. I've booked a week in Portugal next year, £1300 for the three of us instead of £3k term time which I simply can't afford.or justify. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Are people walking into teaching not knowing simple how the economy is manipulated around certain factors? Teaching most likely isn't the right profession if so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Derry Alli said: Are people walking into teaching not knowing simple how the economy is manipulated around certain factors? Teaching most likely isn't the right profession if so. Two of our last 3 students failed to even complete their first terms - both applications should never have been accepted in the first place. One was fantastic with kids on a one-to one basis - as soon as she stood in front of a class she was like a rabbit in the headlights - and no amount of support was ever going to change that. For the other the alarm bells rang when I spoke to another PT in another school where the student had had a pre-visit. I was told that the student had been asked why she wanted to go into teaching - the response of "The pay is good and the holidays are great" told me she had gone in for completely the wrong reasons. Fortunately, she realised she wasn't cut out for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: I don't think anyone is saying that. Your difficulty is that you've already conceded that teachers deserve to receive more pay than is average, due to the requirements and nature of the job. Now if that's the case, then suggesting that this additional money instead serves as compensation for more expensive holidays, doesn't really work. It's not an either or scenario, though. It can be (and in this case is) both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: It's not an either or scenario, though. It can be (and in this case is) both. Right. At what point does the 'payment for having to holiday at expensive times' bonus kick in? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Right. At what point does the 'payment for having to holiday at expensive times' bonus kick in? What an absolutely wild post. The significantly above average salary takes care of that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Right. At what point does the 'payment for having to holiday at expensive times' bonus kick in? I'm fairly certain that included in the terms of your contract, when you sign up to do the job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Derry Alli said: I'm fairly certain that included in the terms of your contract, when you sign up to do the job. Well the bonus doesn't exist so no, it's not. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: What an absolutely wild post. The significantly above average salary takes care of that. But that's already spoken for. You said it yourself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Well the bonus doesn't exist so no, it's not. Thats disgusting. I think a strike is in order here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 18 minutes ago, Derry Alli said: Thats disgusting. I think a strike is in order here. Not just yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 10 hours ago, Derry Alli said: Are people walking into teaching not knowing simple how the economy is manipulated around certain factors? Teaching most likely isn't the right profession if so. Obviously not - don't be daft. The idea came up because posters were going on about the great holidays teachers get. As I've said several times, the holidays are indeed very good. However, a couple of factors dent that advantage a little. That's all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlandcowden Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Could we just have a separate teachers thread,please? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 On 12/03/2023 at 09:47, DeeTillEhDeh said: The pay is good and the holidays are great" What a fucking moron. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 9 minutes ago, mathematics said: What a fucking moron. When I heard she said that I was dumbfounded. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: When I heard she said that I was dumbfounded. How did she even pass the PGDE? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 22 minutes ago, mathematics said: How did she even pass the PGDE? She didn't - she left after 5 weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathematics Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: She didn't - she left after 5 weeks. Ah. Had this in my head as probation year. Apologies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Surely they are two pretty fair reasons for considering any job? Got two close mates who are teachers, they certainly enjoy the holidays and the pay post strike is pretty tasty. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 On 12/03/2023 at 19:50, Monkey Tennis said: Obviously not - don't be daft. The idea came up because posters were going on about the great holidays teachers get. As I've said several times, the holidays are indeed very good. However, a couple of factors dent that advantage a little. That's all. A pretty sensible summary. No surprise to see one of the chief Covid thread moonhowlers try to turn it into something else tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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