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The summer of discontent, 2022


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Just now, G51 said:

What's changed!!!!

It's actually 9000 call center folk and 30,000 openreach the headline wasn't very clear

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Back in the day when I was involved in wage negotiations we were always keen on benchmarks.  I reckon the 15% offer to barristers should be just that.

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36 minutes ago, jamamafegan said:

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Says it all really. Mon the strikers.

I’ve been with BT for many years. 

We currently have Broadband, Landline, and Mobile.

But as soon I have a 5G capable device and the mobile costs are affordable to meet my data needs I will be switching off my Broadband and Landline and just using my mobile as a WAP.

Maybe I should upgrade from my Nokia 3310. Fantastic phone and battery lasts ages.

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4 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Not really, so your typical ‘response’ policing shift in Glasgow is 0700hrs-1600hrs sun-thurs or 0700hrs-1700hrs fri and sat, late shifts are 1400-0000hrs sun- thurs and 1600hrs - 0200hrs fri and sat. Nights are 2100hrs-0700hrs fri and sat and 2200hrs-0700hrs sun-thurs. The request is to drop an average of 5 hours per week which on the shift pattern can be done by shortening the shift times on early and late shift by finishing an hour earlier (with a 1 hour handover time) and starting nightshifts an hour later. Currently the handover between night to day shift relies on people coming in to start their shift early for no payment, PC’s are asked to ‘muster’ 20 minutes early and most Inspectors and Sergeants (ie shift management) will report for duty and get a handover from the previous shift between 45-30minutes before the start of shift without pay. The action proposed by the federation ‘ie removal of goodwill’ will lead to there being no handover time between night and day shift which will cause overtime to be incurred. 

Thanks for the background. Always interesting to see the details of what is being sought.

Not sure why Marshy downvoted your post.

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4 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

In fairness to the police federation they’ve put their costed and fully rationalised pay request in writing and its in the public domain yes. Couldn’t tell you the reason for the refusal, the ‘official side’ dont give reasons for their decisions.  

A helpful explanation and I think that the police absolutely deserve the deal that they've asked for.

Rather than fixating on the bottom line take-home figure, there should be more emphasis on improving practices, adjusting working hours and recognising existing goodwill as part of the bargaining process as in the police case.

Employees across many sectors are leaving money on the table through goodwill, that should be clawed back by recognising work as work rather than an optional extra. 

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Not kept up with the whole thread so apolgies if mentioned before but the reason people should be demanding (and getting) wage rises in the with inflation is because if you get a much smaller increase now, you're unlikely to get a greater than inflation increase in a year or two to make up for it, so will be forever be worse off in relative terms as a result.

 

 

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1 hour ago, oaksoft said:

Thanks for the background. Always interesting to see the details of what is being sought.

Not sure why Marshy downvoted your post.

 

1 hour ago, virginton said:

A helpful explanation and I think that the police absolutely deserve the deal that they've asked for.

Rather than fixating on the bottom line take-home figure, there should be more emphasis on improving practices, adjusting working hours and recognising existing goodwill as part of the bargaining process as in the police case.

Employees across many sectors are leaving money on the table through goodwill, that should be clawed back by recognising work as work rather than an optional extra. 

There always has to be a trade off, in the grand scheme of things its a relatively well paid job, but the massive trade off is the disruption to your personal life, i think its fair to ask for something that’s slightly In line with the rise in cost of living and pressures of just now. One of the things people say on retiring is that they wish they’d devoted more time to their family than their career, I think its reasonable to ask for conditions which improve the quality of time away from work. Mental health in policing, ambulance and other public sector jobs is through the floor, its ultimately going to be better for wellbeing and cause less sickness to seek to improve quality of life. 

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There’s been some speculation about 6 Conservative MPs defecting to Labour.

Seeing David Lammy’s remarks about workers taking industrial action maybe he’d feel more at home on the Tory benches.

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On 30/06/2022 at 14:26, BFTD said:

It's probably pure coincidence that some folk are suddenly interested in the plight of people at the bottom of society since they've personally found themselves with less money to spend on life's frivolities.

No doubt their support will continue once they find themselves back in the pink.

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It hadn't occurred to me that the original use of the phrase "in the pink" might literally be a way of saying that you were getting your hole, much like rock 'n' roll music was, to paraphrase Big Black, a descriptor for songs about fucking.

Apparently it isn't - unless that damned internet is lying again, it referred to a flower that was considered incredibly aesthetically pleasing, and was used to describe anything that was similarly well done. The word pink wasn't used to describe a colour until a century or two later  :mellow:

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18 hours ago, jamamafegan said:

Yep, it's a disgrace that poor hard-done-to drivers have had to put up with, err, cuts to fuel duty over the past ten years. 

Interviews with some of the 'protestors' south of the border yesterday revealed that the usual suspects are involved.

Spoiler

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On 04/07/2022 at 06:44, jamamafegan said:


No, Brexit, Tory voting fermers getting their delicious comeuppance.

The Tories won't give a single f**k about a bunch of Sweaty Socks holding up traffic 500 miles from London.

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