The years of discontent, 2022/23

[Am Featha Taigh Nan Clach]

Not kept up with the whole thread so apolgies if mentioned before but the reason people should be demanding (and getting) wage rises in the with inflation is because if you get a much smaller increase now, you're unlikely to get a greater than inflation increase in a year or two to make up for it, so will be forever be worse off in relative terms as a result.

 

 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

1 hour ago, oaksoft said:

Thanks for the background. Always interesting to see the details of what is being sought.

Not sure why Marshy downvoted your post.

 

1 hour ago, virginton said:

A helpful explanation and I think that the police absolutely deserve the deal that they've asked for.

Rather than fixating on the bottom line take-home figure, there should be more emphasis on improving practices, adjusting working hours and recognising existing goodwill as part of the bargaining process as in the police case.

Employees across many sectors are leaving money on the table through goodwill, that should be clawed back by recognising work as work rather than an optional extra. 

There always has to be a trade off, in the grand scheme of things its a relatively well paid job, but the massive trade off is the disruption to your personal life, i think its fair to ask for something that’s slightly In line with the rise in cost of living and pressures of just now. One of the things people say on retiring is that they wish they’d devoted more time to their family than their career, I think its reasonable to ask for conditions which improve the quality of time away from work. Mental health in policing, ambulance and other public sector jobs is through the floor, its ultimately going to be better for wellbeing and cause less sickness to seek to improve quality of life. 

[Granny Danger]

There’s been some speculation about 6 Conservative MPs defecting to Labour.

Seeing David Lammy’s remarks about workers taking industrial action maybe he’d feel more at home on the Tory benches.

[Jacksgranda]

On 30/06/2022 at 14:26, BFTD said:

It's probably pure coincidence that some folk are suddenly interested in the plight of people at the bottom of society since they've personally found themselves with less money to spend on life's frivolities.

No doubt their support will continue once they find themselves back in the pink.

[BFTD]

It hadn't occurred to me that the original use of the phrase "in the pink" might literally be a way of saying that you were getting your hole, much like rock 'n' roll music was, to paraphrase Big Black, a descriptor for songs about fucking.

Apparently it isn't - unless that damned internet is lying again, it referred to a flower that was considered incredibly aesthetically pleasing, and was used to describe anything that was similarly well done. The word pink wasn't used to describe a colour until a century or two later  

[jamamafegan]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/tractors-block-road-amid-protest-27392292?fbclid=IwAR12DXbMda6kfmO2K8iBJS1sUOOv8_GODTbGbV7B1Nc1HzT5U7crRLBBB0k

Good, more of this please.

[vikingTON]

18 hours ago, jamamafegan said:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/tractors-block-road-amid-protest-27392292?fbclid=IwAR12DXbMda6kfmO2K8iBJS1sUOOv8_GODTbGbV7B1Nc1HzT5U7crRLBBB0k

Good, more of this please.

Yep, it's a disgrace that poor hard-done-to drivers have had to put up with, err, cuts to fuel duty over the past ten years. 

Interviews with some of the 'protestors' south of the border yesterday revealed that the usual suspects are involved.

Spoiler

 

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

I take it the folk who were seething at the Insulate Britain folk blocking roads a few months ago are also angry at the fuel protesters?

[Clown Job]

 

[effeffsee_the2nd]

34 minutes ago, Clown Job said:

 

2%? ffs where do they find these c***s?

[Theroadlesstravelled]

On 04/07/2022 at 06:44, jamamafegan said:

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/tractors-block-road-amid-protest-27392292?fbclid=IwAR12DXbMda6kfmO2K8iBJS1sUOOv8_GODTbGbV7B1Nc1HzT5U7crRLBBB0k

Good, more of this please.

No, Brexit, Tory voting fermers getting their delicious comeuppance.

The Tories won't give a single f**k about a bunch of Sweaty Socks holding up traffic 500 miles from London.

[101]

A resounding Yes from the posties.

[Brother Blades]

11 minutes ago, 101 said:

A resounding Yes from the posties.

That’s some result! Fairly large turnout too. 

[19QOS19]

A resounding Yes from the posties.

Only 77% turnout. Mental. Still far higher than the nurses mind you.

[101]

2 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said:

14 minutes ago, 101 said:

A resounding Yes from the posties.

Only 77% turnout. Mental. Still far higher than the nurses mind you.

Yeh seems odd to join a union and then not vote when the pish is being taken out of you.

[19QOS19]

Yeh seems odd to join a union and then not vote when the pish is being taken out of you.

Can never get my head around it. Stick on the same folk who don't vote moan like f**k all day.

[Central Belt Caley]

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/british-police-receive-5-pay-increase-2022-07-19/

Reuters reporting that the Police and NHS staff in England and Wales will receive a payrise of 5% on average. 

[19QOS19]

Maybe they don't feel they are having the piss taken out of them.
Not everyone will see the issue the same way.

Then they should vote no. Not voting at all is just bizarre.

[ICTChris]

Maybe their ballots got lost in the mail.

[19QOS19]

Why should they do anything of the sort?
 

Because if they feel so strongly that they are being treated fairly like you suggest then why not vote no rather than risk losing money on strike days/the dilemma of having to scab.

The Mrs has received her ballot paper. Quite shocked what it says in the action short of a strike column. That "starting and finishing on time" and "taking your allocated breaks" is regarded as action short of a strike to NMC is fucking appalling IMO. If I was a nurse I'd be more interested in getting that shit sorted rather than money.