Permutations for relegation from West Premier - 5 clubs?

[Ginaro]

3 hours ago, beithboy said:

That does not seem a very sustainable model to work on every year, the uncertainty for clubs will have a detrimental affect on clubs planning for the following season,   as most clubs start their planning for the following season before their season ends,  a club who finishes 12th in the league and thinks their safe then events outside the league mean they get relegated.  Does not sit right with me.  I could understand last seasons relegation scenario as we were re-constructing the leagues. But we should not have a situation every season where it will be possible for a third of the league to be relegated.  

If a club thinks they are safe in 12th despite it not being confirmed then that's their problem for not paying attention to how the pyramid works.

But what's the alternative? Because without fluid relegation you could have a 17 team Premier Division, and then what do you do after that - relegate 4 teams all the way down the divisions the following season?

Edited June 27, 2022 by Ginaro

[archieb]

8 hours ago, beithboy said:

That does not seem a very sustainable model to work on every year, the uncertainty for clubs will have a detrimental affect on clubs planning for the following season,   as most clubs start their planning for the following season before their season ends,  a club who finishes 12th in the league and thinks their safe then events outside the league mean they get relegated.  Does not sit right with me.  I could understand last seasons relegation scenario as we were re-constructing the leagues. But we should not have a situation every season where it will be possible for a third of the league to be relegated.  

This sort of fluid relegation numbers situation is an established fact of life in the lower pyramid elsewhere, e.g. Germany. When there's relegation from a national or regional division to a series of divisions covering smaller areas it's essential to have either variable relegation numbers further down, or sideways transfers as in England.

Far more uncertainty in the Welsh pyramid, where clubs have to apply for/confirm a licence at every level, every year. They can be relegated irrespective of their final league position and, with appeals, places in the pyramid can be undecided up until the start of the next season.

(That's what can happen when the national FA is in overall charge.)

Edited June 27, 2022 by archieb

[Dev]

2 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

The Lowland League typically finishes 2 weeks earlier than the SPFL lower divisions regular season. Worse case scenario clubs will have at least a 2 week window to motivate themselves to get to a definitively safe spot. Although it would usually be clearer long before then.

Getting into a tizzy over this is no difference than last year's 9 down.

7 SPFL Playoffs and it's only worked out once for the Lowland League to relegate 2 clubs.

The lowest West of Scotland area clubs have finished: 5th bottom, 5th bottom, 9th bottom, 10th bottom, 7th bottom, 7th bottom, 8th bottom*, 4th bottom*, 4th bottom

Quite frankly, the +1/+2 concern is something that the EoSFL has to worry about due to the make up of the LL clubs at the moment.

 

 

 

It certainly makes for an exciting, and nervy, end of season for supporters . Keeps them on their toes, thinking and chatting about their team, and wanting to be there to support them to the end of the season.

[Glenconner]

More likely 2 down this season if one of our top clubs can be arsed winning the play off.