bobbydazzler Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 think the competition would probably be boosted by getting an old style junior cup final. an old rivalry, in a decent stadium would defo see a big crowd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: It would help not having a team competing in the SPFL 2 Playoffs. Due to the hoops they have to jump through the previous 4 weeks largely leaves their fanbase and casual interest spent. It's not a showpiece final, but an afterthought. I'm not going to pretend it would be transformative, but 4 weeks focused on hyping and organising for a final would be beneficial. that's an incredibly flimsy reason for not supporting your team in a final. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, Shanner said: that's an incredibly flimsy reason for not supporting your team in a final. It's not though, because they've just supported their team through the equivalent of 4 finals with a 5th tacked on at the end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: It's not though, because they've just supported their team through the equivalent of 4 finals with a 5th tacked on at the end. I'm skeptical, but if you say so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, Shanner said: I'm skeptical, but if you say so. More like Spartans or Drumchapel don't have much in the way of an away support. Broadwood isn't exactly public transport friendly on a Sunday afternoon. More chance of some of the Drumchapel support being at Hampden yesterday for the Women's Final. Badly thought out by the organisers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 15 minutes ago, Shanner said: I'm skeptical, but if you say so. You're entitled to be. You're not the one being asked to fork out £58 as an adult for all 5 games. Plus travel, anything additional for yourself, and potentially paying for others. They had 2,000+ for both home games, and there were 1,900 at Brechin and 1,250 at Coatbridge. There comes a point of diminishing returns and the SCC is clearly 5th on the depth chart. 6th is you factor in celebrating promotion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 From my perspective as an outsider a lot of it has to do with marketing the product. The SJC has history and tradition on its side and appeals to a number of fans who don't regularly follow their local team. It is well publicised and is marketed as a day out for all the family. You do also get attendees who don't follow either team and just want to be at the occasion. The question that the organisers of the SCC need to ask themselves is. Is this a final between 2 teams or is it the showpiece end to our season? It should be the latter, but the build up to it is very low-key. There isn't the hype and excitement that comes with the SJC Final. Yes the individual clubs in the final will have a direct effect on the attendance. But that only goes so far; you just have to look at last year's final Talbot v Bonnyrigg. That should have been a full house. But wasn't, why? What made that final less attractive than if it had been an SJC Final? Both final clubs have a responsibility to promote it properly along with the organisers. From out here in the hinterland the publicity and hype around this game is poor. All this talk about it's end of season; the clubs have their eyes on other prizes and other almost excuses are nonsense. If this is the region's main knockout cup promote it and sell it as such. If it isn't bin it. No trophy should be meaningless to players, clubs, fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 1 hour ago, FairWeatherFan said: You're entitled to be. You're not the one being asked to fork out £58 as an adult for all 5 games. Plus travel, anything additional for yourself, and potentially paying for others. They had 2,000+ for both home games, and there were 1,900 at Brechin and 1,250 at Coatbridge. There comes a point of diminishing returns and the SCC is clearly 5th on the depth chart. 6th is you factor in celebrating promotion. Both Brechin and Coatbridge had a serious prize at the end. I'd say both clubs lost financially out of the Broadwood gig. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 At least the final wasn't in Berwick unlike the Lowland League Cup. If this competition actually meant something to people you would likely be able to draw in 1000+ neutrals in a similar way to Spartans home playoff games. As long as there is South rather than Scottish branding attached to it, good luck with that basically. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 It'd be a nice start if people could get the name right. Think I've seen the competition called about six different things by clubs, media et al. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 48 minutes ago, GNU_Linux said: It'd be a nice start if people could get the name right. Think I've seen the competition called about six different things by clubs, media et al. South of Scotland Challenge Cup -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, PossilYM said: South of Scotland Challenge Cup South Region Challenge Cup is the competition's proper name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie92 Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Run by better people then the ones that run the juniors, that’s for sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANKIEBILL Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 It really depends who's in the final. The Bankies / Talbot final a few weeks ago attracted an attendance of approaching 2000 ( kids didn't have to pay ). If today's final had been same teams or Pollok or some of the other better supported teams were involved, then it would've been similar. Also for some folk this isn't a holiday so shooting in foot perhaps. A very successful season for Spartans. Was very disappointed to go out to them in the "Big" Scottish as they weren't in it until we handed them a goal. However given what they've managed to do then its mibbee we did quite well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 6 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: You're entitled to be. You're not the one being asked to fork out £58 as an adult for all 5 games. Plus travel, anything additional for yourself, and potentially paying for others. They had 2,000+ for both home games, and there were 1,900 at Brechin and 1,250 at Coatbridge. There comes a point of diminishing returns and the SCC is clearly 5th on the depth chart. 6th is you factor in celebrating promotion. £58 is not a lot of money for 5 matches. That's barely more than 2 Premiership matches these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, craigkillie said: £58 is not a lot of money for 5 matches. That's barely more than 2 Premiership matches these days. Good thing I didn't say it was just £58. Plus someone might be supporting a non-league team exactly because they find the Premiership too expensive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PossilYM Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 2 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: Good thing I didn't say it was just £58. Plus someone might be supporting a non-league team exactly because they find the Premiership too expensive. And then there's the cost of getting to Ibrox from Ayrshire or the Easf Coast. Oops sorry wrong forum. Thought i was on Follow Follow there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekok Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 Following this thread with interest. EK has won this cup 3 times in our short history. Enjoyed each final and celebrated as you do. However, with the size, scope and quality of teams now involved it is in need of a much higher profile. The comparison with the Scottish Junior Cup will never match up , given the long and storied history of that. Suggest we need to let the Junior Cup evolve as it will. What is needed is a major effort, including a sponsor for the SRCC. It is a gilt edged opportunity for promotion of the game at Tier 5 and below in by far the biggest catchment area in Scotland. To be honest the competition has not come to terms with it's potential. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted May 29, 2023 Share Posted May 29, 2023 1 minute ago, ekok said: Following this thread with interest. EK has won this cup 3 times in our short history. Enjoyed each final and celebrated as you do. However, with the size, scope and quality of teams now involved it is in need of a much higher profile. The comparison with the Scottish Junior Cup will never match up , given the long and storied history of that. Suggest we need to let the Junior Cup evolve as it will. What is needed is a major effort, including a sponsor for the SRCC. It is a gilt edged opportunity for promotion of the game at Tier 5 and below in by far the biggest catchment area in Scotland. To be honest the competition has not come to terms with it's potential. Will you go watch EK in finals if Goodwillie does indeed sign for them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Pennel Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 Behave you...they'll be the laughing stock if they sign that guy. Surely they wouldn't be so crass. Oh, no...wait,...did they not already suck the OF Boaby ?...they are already the laughing stock. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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