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23 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said:

Evidence is there from last season. Rangers were top of the lowland league when the awkward questions were asked of the LL Chairman about the agreement with SFA and was it ratified. Conveniently, Rangers then had a bad run of form and lost the lead of the league and never looked like regaining it.

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They got off to a strong start like a few clubs. Beating Bo'ness, Spartans, and East Stirlingshire which had people worried they would go on and romp it. Only to stumble with their first loss to CSS. That was all still in July.

 

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10 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said:

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They got off to a strong start like a few clubs. Beating Bo'ness, Spartans, and East Stirlingshire which had people worried they would go on and romp it. Only to stumble with their first loss to CSS. That was all still in July.

 

Time will tell but helps no one for any Colts team to win the league. Club 42 would definitely challenge that and even if LL won the case,  it’s not a good look for Maxwell or Doncaster.

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7 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said:

Time will tell but helps no one for any Colts team to win the league. Club 42 would definitely challenge that and even if LL won the case,  it’s not a good look for Maxwell or Doncaster.

I expect it to get challenged and rightly so. I would have thought the HL would try and be against it as well since it effects them also.

Seems pretty clear that Maxwell and Doncaster are all for B teams in the SPFL. Any B team winning the Lowland League feeds their propaganda machine that they should be in the SPFL because they're too good.

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36 minutes ago, Brazilianlex said:

Time will tell but helps no one for any Colts team to win the league. Club 42 would definitely challenge that and even if LL won the case,  it’s not a good look for Maxwell or Doncaster.

The rule books have already been modified to address this. Any such challenge would fail.

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3 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

The rule books have already been modified to address this. Any such challenge would fail.

Rules are rules but the law is the law, Making a rule doesn’t make it legal.

Taking the Hearts, Partick challenge as an example, not allowed to take legal action before mandatory arbitration so each party has to hire a QC, can the LL “Champions”  afford that ?

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On 17/06/2022 at 15:05, LongTimeLurker said:

They wouldn't need to hire a QC. Club 42 have no grounds for appeal over this because the necessary rules have been agreed and passed by all parties. Cowdenbeath are now a LL club. You need to come to terms with that and move on.

Since you are so fond of rules, read the SFA rules.

Everyone has the right of appeal but has to go to arbitration. SFA appoint a QC from their list who adjudicates.  Each party involved then appoints a QC to argue their legal case. Lots of dosh required to hire these guys.

Well aware we are a LL Club so it’s important that if we win the league, legal action doesn’t stop us having a go at the play off. 
 

 

 

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The Scottish Junior FA attempting to be relevant again.

 

Successful Scottish Junior Football Association AGM today.
Biggest thing to go through was the opening of the Scottish Junior Cup to any team tier 5 and below who wish to enter.
It’s about small steps and I don’t expect a major influx from teams straight away but my plan includes an up to £80,000 prize pot with payouts to last 16 possibly 32.
There is no denying that the association has struggled to move forward but hopefully this is the first step moving on.
We’ve said it continuously that we are more than willing to work with other associations at our level if they are.
Another that was in my report to our members is the proposal put forward to the pyramid working group of the SFA, we have proposed a new set up at tier 5 sitting alongside the highland league and lowland league.
We feel the timing is right for such a move and again would be happy working with the others roundabout us.
We aim to fill a 16 team league with licensed clubs from the midlands league, the West of Scotland Football League and the East of Scotland league.
At the top end of it all depends on SPFL clubs changing there format, at the bottom end if the three leagues are in the winners if licensed automatically go up and the bottom three down, the fourth bottom of central league will play in a playoff with all three leagues second placed teams if licensed for the fourth promotion/relegation place.
A proper way for promotion and relegation.
Congratulations also go to Norman McKay, Bobby McNamara, Gordon Ronney and Felix McKenna on gaining life membership of the association, your service to the Scottish Junior FA is greatly appreciated.
Felix McKenna also received an honorary Vice President certificate.
Alex McDowall
Chief Operating Officer
Scottish Junior FA
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10 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

The Scottish Junior FA attempting to be relevant again.

 

Successful Scottish Junior Football Association AGM today.
Biggest thing to go through was the opening of the Scottish Junior Cup to any team tier 5 and below who wish to enter.
It’s about small steps and I don’t expect a major influx from teams straight away but my plan includes an up to £80,000 prize pot with payouts to last 16 possibly 32.
There is no denying that the association has struggled to move forward but hopefully this is the first step moving on.
We’ve said it continuously that we are more than willing to work with other associations at our level if they are.
Another that was in my report to our members is the proposal put forward to the pyramid working group of the SFA, we have proposed a new set up at tier 5 sitting alongside the highland league and lowland league.
We feel the timing is right for such a move and again would be happy working with the others roundabout us.
We aim to fill a 16 team league with licensed clubs from the midlands league, the West of Scotland Football League and the East of Scotland league.
At the top end of it all depends on SPFL clubs changing there format, at the bottom end if the three leagues are in the winners if licensed automatically go up and the bottom three down, the fourth bottom of central league will play in a playoff with all three leagues second placed teams if licensed for the fourth promotion/relegation place.
A proper way for promotion and relegation.
Congratulations also go to Norman McKay, Bobby McNamara, Gordon Ronney and Felix McKenna on gaining life membership of the association, your service to the Scottish Junior FA is greatly appreciated.
Felix McKenna also received an honorary Vice President certificate.
Alex McDowall
Chief Operating Officer
Scottish Junior FA

Sounds like insanity. Can’t imagine any league agreeing to three down from ten!

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9 hours ago, invergowrie arab said:

The grammar and spelling in that should be enough to get them told to bolt.

Ordinarily would hate this and think it has near zero chance of success but if it hastens the end of the LL then all for it. 

Personally, I was sad to see the demise of the Junior game as it was, but the clubs, and their Association, have to move on. Not quite sure how this will work (is it to have a Junior league to run alongside the LL and HL - and you have to ask to what benefit?) especially as it is pretty garbled. Someone will hopefully proof read any application.

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On 15/06/2022 at 13:27, leomessi1984 said:

Some interesting signings from Civil Service in Laird & Balatoni. They were solid last year and with a young team it'll only help with SPFL experience coming in.

Balatoni is completely and utterly finished, even at LL level I would say.

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11 hours ago, Brazilianlex said:

Since you are so fond of rules, read the SFA rules.

Everyone has the right of appeal but has to go to arbitration. SFA appoint a QC from their list who adjudicates.  Each party involved then appoints a QC to argue their legal case. Lots of dosh required to hire these guys.

Well aware we are a LL Club so it’s important that if we win the league, legal action doesn’t stop us having a go at the play off. 
 

You need to read the rules again.

The arbitrators needn't be QCs, just suitably qualified lawyers or judges. The SFA appoint one, and the two parties can agree to have him adjudicate on his own. Otherwise, each party appoints another arbitrator. However, his role isn't to argue their case, it's to act impartially and adjudicate jointly with the others.

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You need to read the rules again.
The arbitrators needn't be QCs, just suitably qualified lawyers or judges. The SFA appoint one, and the two parties can agree to have him adjudicate on his own. Otherwise, each party appoints another arbitrator. However, his role isn't to argue their case, it's to act impartially and adjudicate jointly with the others.
I reckon Cowden would be able to get a QC free of charge.
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13 hours ago, Stag Nation said:

You need to read the rules again.

The arbitrators needn't be QCs, just suitably qualified lawyers or judges. The SFA appoint one, and the two parties can agree to have him adjudicate on his own. Otherwise, each party appoints another arbitrator. However, his role isn't to argue their case, it's to act impartially and adjudicate jointly with the others.

If I’m hiring a QC or a lawyer and paying his fee, he better be arguing for me !

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