welldaft Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 England 0-2 HungaryEngland get battered everywhere they go…. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Terrapin Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Ukraine racking up the suspensions 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Ukraine racking up the suspensionsGood lads 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Sorry to pollute this thread with my small-minded, petty schadenfreude, but...England 0-4 Hungary 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Terrapin Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 From the depths of despair this has turned out to be not a bad night for Scotland. And the bonus being England pumped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, welldaft said: Or the 3-0 win against Scotland u smart arse Yep definitely a smart arse for pointing out absolute stupidity. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Armenia are a really horrible bunch who I don't want to play again anytime soon. The first half will stick in the mind much more than the second. I suppose we do need to account for fatigue and missing a few key players, but all three who started at the back are regulars, Gilmour dropped a disasterclass and McGregor carried over his form from the Ireland game while 11 v 11 (was good 11 v 10). Taylor had some decent moments but he's not a wing-back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Also if Ireland win tonight it means we could actually slip up and draw with them at hampden as long as we take 4 points from Ukraine. Ireland could only get 10, Ukraine 10 and we would be on 11.Ireland win tonight preferable imoThis remains true even after the draw tonight. If we take 4 off Ukraine then a draw against Ireland is sufficient. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 This remains true even after the draw tonight. If we take 4 off Ukraine then a draw against Ireland is sufficient.Yeh, good point. H2H 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 28 minutes ago, Joe Terrapin said: From the depths of despair this has turned out to be not a bad night for Scotland. And the bonus being Scotland winning. FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksburnDandy Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Ultimately, it has been a disappointing camp this time round. However the win tonight is a good one and does show the progress that the team has made, taking advantage of a gang in such a dismissive and comprehensive manner in the second half.Major issues in terms of lack of tactical flexibility and our defence tonight being a clowncar outfit.However I'll park that on this thread to celebrate the good stuff from Armstrong, Patterson and McGinn who all looked very bright tonight. Patterson is a big upgrade on Ralston, McGinn looked better tonight than his last three games. Armstrong was outstanding, and has had one of the few creditable camps this June.Roll on September, hopefully with a fit KT. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundskeeperWillie Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 It was nice of us to try and make this a more interesting match by competing in a battle of which defence could be more tinpot. Given how ineffectual we were going forward against ROI, it's hard not to get the fear when they go 1-0 up so early, and even at 1-1 and 2-1 up we showed serious defensive deficiencies. Glad to have got the morale boost of a win and a few goals, but for September we really need to sort out the defence. Tierney returning should hopefully bring back some stability, but given how positionally poor Hanley and Hendry were tonight, you have to question their suitability for starting places in the next triple header (if McKenna is fit and Souttar doesn't pick up another injury I'd contend they are slightly ahead as it stands). Armstrong definitely MOM for me, he provided the link between midfield and attack that Christie failed at against ROI, plus two really well taken goals. Adams not far behind, thought he again did so much good running and attempting to make spaces, and his five-a-side attempt at beating the entire Armenia team was a fun moment. Also nice of Armenia to adopt the Airdrie of the 80s and early 90s approach. Some of the tackling and general shithousery was lamentable, glad to see the infamous water bottle thrower finally get his comeuppance. Not sure what was going on at the end, looked like someone was attempting to go for one of our players and was thankfully stopped, but as some have mentioned glad we don't have to play Armenia again for a while 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charger29 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 There are 20 automatic places up for grabs.Finishing 3rd in a League B group would leave you ranked between 25th and 28th overall. Once you rule out Germany as hosts, that's really 24th to 27th for play-off consideration.Barring an unforeseen change to the format, there are 8 play-off spots across Leagues A and B, so to miss out on those even as the worst 3rd placed team, you'd need 2 of the sides above you to miss out on qualification. If you're the best 3rd placed side you'd need 5 of them to miss out.Yeah, fair enough. Took another look at it. There is a good change 3rd gets you a playoff place. Although its not impossible that all four B winners don't qualify automatically and you're left hoping to sneak into the A playoffs (with the possibility of the best D team nicking a spot ahead of you). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, charger29 said: Yeah, fair enough. Took another look at it. There is a good change 3rd gets you a playoff place. Although its not impossible that all four B winners don't qualify automatically and you're left hoping to sneak into the A playoffs (with the possibility of the best D team nicking a spot ahead of you). I don't think there's any chance that Group D will get a playoff this time around. It will be Group C and above. Given it's 20 countries plus Germany, there are only three playoff routes available this time, whilst there was four for 2020. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 There's a place set aside for the best League D team as long as at least one of the group winners qualifies automatically. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, craigkillie said: There's a place set aside for the best League D team as long as at least one of the group winners qualifies automatically. So a Group D team moves up, rather than Group D having its own playoff? Makes sense. So does a D team push up to B or A? (I'm guessing Greece, Turkey, Kazakhstan and Georgia are unlikely to qualify automatically so Group C won't have space). Mind you, Finland ruined that theory last time, so not impossible. Imagine being a Group B side (such as ourselves), winning a group and being paired against Latvia? Edited June 14, 2022 by HuttonDressedAsLahm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I think they'd go into A. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Thank f**k Mkhitaryan retired from international football btw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRocketman II Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 let's just hope that come September, Ukraine and Ireland play fair and elect not to get in about us from kick off. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Signing off with a nice wee summary of the evening's football... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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